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  • utilyan
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    Originally posted by Thomas View Post

    I'm lost. What do you mean by the words "two persons" -- could you make a complete sentence, so I'll know?
    A Priest, a Rabbi and a Minister walked into their favourite bar, where they would get together two or three times a week for drinks and to talk. On this particular afternoon, someone made the comment that preaching to people isn't really all that hard. A real challenge would be to preach to a bear.

    One thing led to another and they decided to do an experiment. They would all go out into the woods, find a bear, preach to it, and attempt to convert it. Seven days later, they're all together to discuss the experience.

    The Priest, who has his arm in a sling, is on crutches, and has various bandages, goes first. "Well," he says, "I went into the woods to find me a bear. And when I found him I began to read to him from the Catechism. Well, that bear wanted nothing to do with me and began to slap me around. So I quickly grabbed my holy water, sprinkled him and, Holy Mary Mother of God, he became as gentle a lamb. The bishop is coming out next week to give him first communion and confirmation."

    The Minister spoke next. He was in a wheelchair, with an arm and both legs in casts, and an IV drip. In his best fire and brimstone oratory he claimed, “Well brothers, you know that we don't sprinkle! I went out and I found me a bear. And then I began to read to my bear from God's Holy word! But that bear wanted nothing to do with me. So I took hold of him and we began to wrestle. We wrestled down one hill, up another and down another until we came to a creek. So I quick dunked him and baptized his hairy soul. And just like you said, he became as gentle as a lamb. We spent the rest of the day praising Jesus."

    They both looked down at the rabbi, who was lying in a hospital bed. He was in a body cast and traction with IV's and monitors running in and out of him. He was in bad shape.

    The rabbi looks up and says, "Looking back on it, circumcision may not have been the best way to start."

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  • CatholicScripture
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    here's what you can't seem to follow:

    when you see the word "God", you think Jesus is God

    when others see the word "God " , they think God is The Father AND the Son AND the Holy Spirit

    for example ,, the phrase " Mother of God" contains the word "God"

    therefore you should define who God is
    not who is God.
    You don't think Jesus is God?

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  • Thomas
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post
    two persons ...
    I'm lost. What do you mean by the words "two persons" -- could you make a complete sentence, so I'll know?

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  • utilyan
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    At the conception of Jesus Christ this Man is 100% GOD and in the womb of Mary.

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  • utilyan
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    There is only ONE LORD.


    Ephesians 5

    5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.


    Deuteronomy 6

    4“Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! 5“You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.


    Psalm 18

    31For who is God, but the LORD?
    And who is a rock, except our God,



    Luke 1
    43
    “And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me?


    who is God, but the LORD?

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  • mica
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    Originally posted by utilyan View Post
    Yes it does. When the holy spirit entered Elizabeth she recognized THE MOTHER OF MY LORD.


    Luke 2

    11for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.


    There is only one Lord God Almighty.


    Luke 1

    42And she cried out with a loud voice and said, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43“And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me?

    There is only one Lord God Almighty.
    do you know the difference between LORD and Lord?

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  • utilyan
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    Originally posted by nan View Post

    Does scripture say that Mary carried God in her womb?
    Yes it does. When the holy spirit entered Elizabeth she recognized THE MOTHER OF MY LORD.


    Luke 2

    11for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.


    There is only one Lord God Almighty.


    Luke 1

    42And she cried out with a loud voice and said, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43“And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me?

    There is only one Lord God Almighty.




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  • Mark Rome
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    here's what you can't seem to follow:

    when you see the word "God", you think Jesus is God

    when others see the word "God " , they think God is The Father AND the Son AND the Holy Spirit

    for example ,, the phrase " Mother of God" contains the word "God"

    therefore you should define who God is
    not who is God.
    You don't think Jesus is God?

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
    Here's another example

    nan splits Jesus in two during Jesus' time inside Mary's womb

    Jesus-Human inside of Mary's womb, but Jesus-God not inside of Mary's womb.

    here's what you can't seem to follow:

    when you see the word "God", you think Jesus is God

    when others see the word "God " , they think God is The Father AND the Son AND the Holy Spirit

    for example ,, the phrase " Mother of God" contains the word "God"

    therefore you should define who God is
    not who is God.

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  • nan
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    Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
    Here's another example

    nan splits Jesus in two during Jesus' time inside Mary's womb

    Jesus-Human inside of Mary's womb, but Jesus-God not inside of Mary's womb.

    Does scripture say that Mary carried God in her womb?

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post

    Great example Joe.

    Here, tester asserts that Jesus-Human died, but Jesus-God didn't

    He split Jesus in two persons.
    Nope , I was referring to natures

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  • CatholicScripture
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    Here's another example

    nan splits Jesus in two during Jesus' time inside Mary's womb

    Jesus-Human inside of Mary's womb, but Jesus-God not inside of Mary's womb.

    Originally posted by nan View Post
    Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post

    Did Mary carry God in her womb? Yes or No?


    No.

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  • CatholicScripture
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post
    two persons ...

    Originally posted by tester View Post

    Jesus descendant of Abraham from the line of David, son of Mary, Son of Man, the Lamb of God, the last Adam died on the Cross: killed by a few Roman soldiers.
    His life ceased

    The Christ, the Supreme Creator of all, the Second Person of the Trinity, the Eternal, the Logos, the Sustainer of ALL things, the Great I AM, the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." did not die on the Cross
    His life never ceases
    Great example Joe.

    Here, tester asserts that Jesus-Human died, but Jesus-God didn't

    He split Jesus in two persons.

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  • Mark Rome
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post
    two persons ...
    Yeah, it seems that he thinks Jesus and Christ are two different persons.

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  • Mark Rome
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    Originally posted by Angels_Sing View Post

    Dead bodies are....wait for it...DEAD. Lol

    You said, "people cease to live" which makes no sense.
    Dead bodies were never live dead bodies. Dead bodies don't cease to live. Bodies cease to live. Then they are dead bodies. Lol

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