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  • Mark Rome
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    Has God ever ceased to live?
    Define live.

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  • Angels_Sing
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    Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    I never defined death as ceasing to exist.
    Dead bodies don't cease to live. People cease to live.
    Dead bodies are....wait for it...DEAD. Lol

    You said, "people cease to live" which makes no sense.

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    I never defined death as ceasing to exist.
    Dead bodies don't cease to live. People cease to live.
    Has God ever ceased to live?

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  • Angels_Sing
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    Originally posted by 4Him View Post

    Yes, so where do you see "two persons"?
    Hmmmm, that's what I'd like to know too.

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  • Mark Rome
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    death is not defined as ceasing to exist
    a dead body has not ceased to exist

    death is defined as ceasing to live
    a dead body has ceased to live:

    Has God ever ceased to live?
    I never defined death as ceasing to exist.
    Dead bodies don't cease to live. People cease to live.

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    The divine nature is hypostatically united with Christ"s human nature (body and soul). While the human soul separated from the human body, Christ's divine nature (which cannot cease to exist) remained united to his soul and body. Thus we can say that God died.
    death is not defined as ceasing to exist
    a dead body has not ceased to exist

    death is defined as ceasing to live
    a dead body has ceased to live:

    Has God ever ceased to live?

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  • Mark Rome
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    So, when discussing the death of God (as if that were even possible) how would that apply?
    The divine nature is hypostatically united with Christ"s human nature (body and soul). While the human soul separated from the human body, Christ's divine nature (which cannot cease to exist) remained united to his soul and body. Thus we can say that God died.

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    Read the first line of post 1
    still no Catholic has answered the OP

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    Death is the cessation of the unitive functioning of the body. This occurs when the soul (what animates the person) separates from the body.
    So, when discussing the death of God (as if that were even possible) how would that apply?
    Last edited by tester; 07-12-18, 12:19 PM.

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  • Mark Rome
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    The cessation of life
    Death is the cessation of the unitive functioning of the body. This occurs when the soul (what animates the person) separates from the body.

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    OK thanks. Which statements do you agree with?
    Read the first line of post 1

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  • 4Him
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    Originally posted by Curious Joe View Post

    Yes, Jesus is God, and yes, Jesus is man.

    Yes, Jesus is one person, not two.

    Jesus suffered death
    Yes, so where do you see "two persons"?

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  • Curious Joe
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    Originally posted by tester View Post

    this is the OP:
    do Catholics agree with each statement?

    Jesus Christ is one person; not two.
    Jesus Christ has two natures; not one.

    One of His natures is Divine.
    One of His natures is human.

    Everything that is true about the Divine nature is true about the person of Jesus Christ.
    Everything that is true about the human nature is true about the person of Jesus Christ.

    NOT everything that is true about the Divine nature is true about the human nature of Jesus Christ.
    NOT everything that is true about the human nature is true about the Divine nature of Jesus Christ.

    NOT everything that is true about the person of Jesus Christ is true about the human nature of Jesus Christ.
    NOT everything that is true about the person of Jesus Christ is true about the Divine nature of Jesus Christ.
    OK thanks. Which statements do you agree with?

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  • tester
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    Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    What is death?
    The cessation of life

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  • Howie
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    Originally posted by Mark Rome View Post

    Because the divine nature is hypostatically united with the human soul which separated from the body (that is death)
    So only the human soul and human the body were affected by His death?

    Sounds like you're dividing Christ into pieces.

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