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Why do Catholics do not believe there was a period of no inspiration after Malachi?

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  • Why do Catholics do not believe there was a period of no inspiration after Malachi?

    Evangelical erudites have identified a period of no inspiration after Malachi that supposedly means that the deuterocanonicals are NOT inspired!!!!

    Why are Catholics unaware of this?

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    Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
    Evangelical erudites have identified a period of no inspiration after Malachi that supposedly means that the deuterocanonicals are NOT inspired!!!!

    Why are Catholics unaware of this?
    That period was mostly a Hellenistic period and the Masoretes Jews (during the production & distribution of the Masoretic Text) took vengeance against Christianity by declaring that Hellenistic period null and void of any inspiration. Protestants/Evangelicals/Radicals fell into that trap like the a-historical, iconoclastic, ignorant, and nihilistic lemmings they are.

    It boggles my mind just how ignorant of history evangelicals can be, and they're PROUD of it.
    Last edited by UnionofGrace&Nature; 11-08-18, 11:28 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by unionofgrace&nature View Post
      that period was mostly a hellenistic period and the masoretic jews took vengeance against christianity by declaring that hellenistic period null and void of any inspiration. Protestants/evangelicals/radicals fell into that trap like the a-historical, iconoclastic, ignorant, and nihilistic lemmings they are.

      It boggles my mind just how ignorant of history evangelicals can be, and they're proud of it.
      amen!!!

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      • #4
        There are several problems with the argument of SILENT PERIOD.

        For example,

        I will leave a few thoughts that refute such an argument

        First, Was John the Baptist a Prophet of the Old Covenant or the New Covenant?

        Matthew 11:11-13New International Version (NIV)

        11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence,[a] and violent people have been raiding it. 13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.

        Second,

        What did Anna prophesy? Right here!

        Luke 2:36-38New International Version (NIV)

        36 There was also a prophet, Anna, the daughter of Penuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was very old; she had lived with her husband seven years after her marriage, 37 and then was a widow until she was eighty-four.[a] She never left the temple but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38 Coming up to them at that very moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the child to all who were looking forward to the redemption of Jerusalem.
        Or how about Simeon?

        Luke 2:25-35New International Version (NIV)

        25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was on him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Messiah. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

        29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
        you may now dismiss[a] your servant in peace.
        30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
        31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
        32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
        and the glory of your people Israel.”

        33 The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him. 34 Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: “This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, 35 so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword will pierce your own soul too.”

        Look another Prophesy right here before the birth of Christ for Zechariah during the so-called Silent period.

        Luke 1:13-17King James Version (KJV)

        13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

        14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

        15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

        16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

        17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
        Now, I am going to track the source of the Silent Period Argument. It was not done by a Christian, but the Rabbinical Jews in order to discredit Christianity.

        See the Babylonian Talmud (http://www.come-and-hear.com/sotah/sotah_48.html)
        Who are the former prophets? [The term 'former'] excludes Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi who are the latter [prophets]. For our Rabbis have taught: When Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi died, the Holy Spirit departed from Israel10
        Encyclopedia Britannica says
        http://www.britannica.com/topic/Bavli
        Bavli, also called Talmud Bavli, or the Babylonian Talmud, second and more authoritative of the two Talmuds (the other Talmud being the Yerushalmi) produced by Rabbinic Judaism. Completed about 600 ce, the Bavli served as the constitution and bylaws of Rabbinic Judaism.
        Take notice that it was completed about 600 CE. The Jews claimed after the death of these prophets the Holy Spirit left Israel. Of course this is an argument against Christianity by Rabbinical Jews. Protestants are just parroting it.

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        • #5
          One of my points is that I can understand that as human beings we desire and accept an authoritative judge on earth as Christs promised.... but why does Luther qualify to be that judge? Under what authority did he definitively void these scripture writings 1500 after Christ and separate from any Apostolic tradition? To unquestioningly accept his decree resembles a cult blindness in nonCC's. Do nonCC's regard Luther a prophet himself in order to accept his decree?
          The crones love their cliques!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
            There are several problems with the argument of SILENT PERIOD.

            For example,

            I will leave a few thoughts that refute such an argument

            First, Was John the Baptist a Prophet of the Old Covenant or the New Covenant?




            Second,

            What did Anna prophesy? Right here!


            Or how about Simeon?




            Look another Prophesy right here before the birth of Christ for Zechariah during the so-called Silent period.



            Now, I am going to track the source of the Silent Period Argument. It was not done by a Christian, but the Rabbinical Jews in order to discredit Christianity.

            See the Babylonian Talmud (http://www.come-and-hear.com/sotah/sotah_48.html)
            Encyclopedia Britannica says
            http://www.britannica.com/topic/Bavli
            Take notice that it was completed about 600 CE. The Jews claimed after the death of these prophets the Holy Spirit left Israel. Of course this is an argument against Christianity by Rabbinical Jews. Protestants are just parroting it.
            The Septuagint Text was the OT Text that the Apostles quoted when they wrote the NT. The Rabbinical Jews ripped off the Books written during Hellenistic times, altered text that clearly referred to Jesus, and diabolically concocted/brewed up the Masoretic Text. Now which text should Christians use? It's a no-brainer, right? Well, looks like Protestants/Evangelicals/Radicals are once again lacking in that intelligence compartment when it comes to the Word of God.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
              Evangelical erudites have identified a period of no inspiration after Malachi that supposedly means that the deuterocanonicals are NOT inspired!!!!

              Why are Catholics unaware of this?
              Just another thing that their "religious Club" doesn't bother with, and why would hey want to lose their "Purgatorial proof text"???

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                Just another thing that their "religious Club" doesn't bother with, and why would hey want to lose their "Purgatorial proof text"???
                The "Purgatorial proof text" that nowhere teaches about a place/state called Purgatory?

                LOL.

                Now that is proof!

                ...
                "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."- John F. Kennedy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
                  Evangelical erudites have identified a period of no inspiration after Malachi that supposedly means that the deuterocanonicals are NOT inspired!!!!

                  Why are Catholics unaware of this?
                  Following Frankie instead of asking the Lord Jesus for life
                  does have its consequences.


                  But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life (Jn 5:40).

                  Servants of satan deceive by adding uninspired writers;
                  like Luke the Greek, the author of Hebrews and James
                  to the foundational prophets and apostles
                  (Mat 13:25, Eph 2:20).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mercedes View Post
                    One of my points is that I can understand that as human beings we desire and accept an authoritative judge on earth as Christs promised.... but why does Luther qualify to be that judge? Under what authority did he definitively void these scripture writings 1500 after Christ and separate from any Apostolic tradition? To unquestioningly accept his decree resembles a cult blindness in nonCC's. Do nonCC's regard Luther a prophet himself in order to accept his decree?
                    A number of books didn't make sense to Luther.

                    However that isn't a good reason to reject those books
                    for that rejection has to be supported with scripture.


                    the household of God, having been built
                    on the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
                    Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone
                    (Eph 2:20).



                    Servants of satan deceive by adding uninspired writers;
                    like Luke the Greek, the author of Hebrews and James
                    to the foundational prophets and apostles
                    (Mat 13:25, Eph 2:20).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
                      There are several problems with the argument of SILENT PERIOD.

                      For example,

                      I will leave a few thoughts that refute such an argument

                      First, Was John the Baptist a Prophet of the Old Covenant or the New Covenant?
                      John the Baptist didn't prophesy the coming of Jesus,
                      but announced Christ's imminent ministry
                      and told the Jews to repent in preparation for it.


                      Surely the Lord GOD does nothing,
                      Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets
                      (Amos 3:7)



                      Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post

                      What did Anna prophesy? Right here!


                      Luke 2:36-38New International Version (NIV)

                      36 There was also a prophet, Anna, the daughter of Penuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was very old; she had lived with her husband seven years after her marriage, 37 and then was a widow until she was eighty-four.[a] She never left the temple but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38 Coming up to them at that very moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the child to all who were looking forward to the redemption of Jerusalem.

                      Anna merely talked about that child, like most Jews did.


                      Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
                      Or how about Simeon?
                      Simeon prophesied that (yes, a sword will pierce through your own soul also),
                      that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed. ”
                      (Lk 2:35).

                      You would never have known
                      what is in your heart,
                      if it wasn't for Mary's sorrow.





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                      Last edited by Conqueror; 11-09-18, 03:11 AM.
                      Servants of satan deceive by adding uninspired writers;
                      like Luke the Greek, the author of Hebrews and James
                      to the foundational prophets and apostles
                      (Mat 13:25, Eph 2:20).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UnionofGrace&Nature View Post
                        The Septuagint Text was the OT Text that the Apostles quoted when they wrote the NT.

                        the gospel of God which He promised before
                        through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures
                        (Rom 1:1-2)

                        we have the prophetic word confirmed (2 Pe 1:19).



                        Paul and Peter didn't refer to the Septuagint,
                        but specifically to the prophets.



                        .
                        Servants of satan deceive by adding uninspired writers;
                        like Luke the Greek, the author of Hebrews and James
                        to the foundational prophets and apostles
                        (Mat 13:25, Eph 2:20).

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                        • #13
                          Amazing how I traced the silent period to Rabbinical Jews and Evangelicals continue to parrot the fable.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
                            Evangelical erudites have identified a period of no inspiration after Malachi that supposedly means that the deuterocanonicals are NOT inspired!!!!

                            Why are Catholics unaware of this?
                            They are not considered inspired because they are not the scripture of Palestinian Jews, what Jesus used.

                            Jerome investigated this centuries ago in his time and determined that those other books are questionable and not suitable for doctrines.

                            So he labeled them "apocrypha" in the Vulgate. There is no good reason to change that and good reasons not to. All this was debated at Trent where finally

                            the Catholic Church decided to accept them as scripture. The Reformers did not agree. The Catholic church wanted them to support some of their bad habits like

                            torturing heretics or paying to be pardoned from sins. I think the Reformers were right.

                            Why don't you tell us why they deserve to be a part of our scripture and support dogmas? It sounds like you have not good reason.

                            So far your reasons (none) are not very convincing.

                            JohnR

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CatholicScripture View Post
                              Amazing how I traced the silent period ............................
                              The Deuterocanonical or Apocryphal books; 1 and 2 Maccabees,
                              Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, and Baruch
                              were written 2-3 centuries before the time of Christ.

                              The “intertestamental” period began after the prophet Malachi (400 BC)
                              There is no evidence of prophets during that time (1 Maccabees 4:45b-46, 9:27, 14:41).




                              The papacy has proven not to be capable
                              of compiling the word of God.

                              Let that sink in.





                              Servants of satan deceive by adding uninspired writers;
                              like Luke the Greek, the author of Hebrews and James
                              to the foundational prophets and apostles
                              (Mat 13:25, Eph 2:20).

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