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Loving others is a work of the law: Change my mind

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    Loving others is a work of the law: Change my mind

    Catholics:
    Review and consider the verses below and answer:
    Is "loving your neighbor as yourself" a work of the law?

    Paul in Romans said
    Romans 13:
    8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law.9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command:
    “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

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    Paul in Galatians said
    Galatians 5:
    14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”


    JESUS infallibly summarized the Law and SAID
    Mark 12:
    28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
    29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”
    32 “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33 To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.

    JESUS SAID
    Matthew 19:
    Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
    18 “Which ones?” he inquired.
    Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’”

    JESUS SAID
    Luke 10:25-28
    25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

    26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

    27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

    28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
    <continues with the Parable of the Good Samaritan>
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    and let's not forget your favorite author in your favorite chapter

    James 2:
    8 If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right
    One of the ekklēsia

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    Romans 3:28
    For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

    Titus 3:5
    He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy,

    We are told we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law
    We are told we are not saved by works of righteousness


    WHAT ELSE IS THERE?

    still waiting


    One of the ekklēsia

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tester View Post
      Romans 3:28
      For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

      Titus 3:5
      He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy,

      We are told we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law
      We are told we are not saved by works of righteousness


      WHAT ELSE IS THERE?

      still waiting

      Hi Tester,

      You wrote: Loving others is a work of the law: Change my mind

      I don't want to change your mind.

      Let us pray for one another and love one another.
      -Ray-

      The Good News is that Jesus Christ died and rose for our sins so that we might be saved.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by relling View Post

        Hi Tester,

        You wrote: Loving others is a work of the law: Change my mind

        I don't want to change your mind.

        Let us pray for one another and love one another.
        Am I correct?
        One of the ekklēsia

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tester View Post

          Am I correct?
          Yes.
          -Ray-

          The Good News is that Jesus Christ died and rose for our sins so that we might be saved.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by relling View Post

            Yes.
            Loving others is a command of God not a work of the law.
            We are either in the process of resisting God's truth or in the process of being shaped and molded by his truth … Charles Stanley

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            • #7
              Originally posted by nan View Post

              Loving others is a command of God not a work of the law.
              did you see the verses in the OP?
              Was Jesus' summary of The Law infallible?
              One of the ekklēsia

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tester View Post
                Romans 3:28
                For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

                Titus 3:5
                He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy,

                We are told we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law
                We are told we are not saved by works of righteousness


                WHAT ELSE IS THERE?

                still waiting

                My understanding is once saved by the grace of God, we want to be a disciple. That means we want to become Christlike in our thoughts, actions etc. Christ is love it was part of who He is, it never seemed like a work for Him to love. It was part of His nature. Love should become part of the nature of the true disciple. I believe we are changed once saved and that shows in everything we do and say and think.

                It is not a work, a work is something that we do whereas love is something that has been given to us.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by balshan View Post

                  My understanding is once saved by the grace of God, we want to be a disciple. That means we want to become Christlike in our thoughts, actions etc. Christ is love it was part of who He is, it never seemed like a work for Him to love. It was part of His nature. Love should become part of the nature of the true disciple. I believe we are changed once saved and that shows in everything we do and say and think.

                  It is not a work, a work is something that we do whereas love is something that has been given to us.
                  from the OP:
                  "Review and consider the verses below and answer:
                  Is "loving your neighbor as yourself" a work of the law?"
                  One of the ekklēsia

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tester View Post

                    from the OP:
                    "Review and consider the verses below and answer:
                    Is "loving your neighbor as yourself" a work of the law?"
                    Consider what I posted. If you love your neighbour is it because of work or is it the gift of love that gives to you?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by nan View Post

                      Loving others is a command of God not a work of the law.
                      Greetings nan,

                      Agreed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by balshan View Post

                        Consider what I posted. If you love your neighbour is it because of work or is it the gift of love that gives to you?
                        Irrelevant to the question .
                        after reading the verses in the OP
                        Is "loving your neighbor as yourself" a work of the law?"

                        the point of dispute is the Catholic claim the we are justified by God because of our acts of love for others
                        Paul states "a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law."

                        If "loving your neighbor as yourself" is a work of the law
                        then we cannot be justified by God because of our acts of love.
                        One of the ekklēsia

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tester View Post

                          Irrelevant to the question .
                          after reading the verses in the OP
                          Is "loving your neighbor as yourself" a work of the law?"

                          the point of dispute is the Catholic claim the we are justified by God because of our acts of love for others
                          Paul states "a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law."

                          If "loving your neighbor as yourself" is a work of the law
                          then we cannot be justified by God because of our acts of love.
                          I do not believe any man can keep this command ( a summery of the commandments )

                          Like all the law, only Christ could keep to perfectly
                          Have I now become your enemy because I tell you the truth ? Gal 4:16

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Calsgal View Post

                            I do not believe any man can keep this command ( a summery of the commandments )

                            Like all the law, only Christ could keep to perfectly
                            But what does God say?

                            Deuteronomy 30

                            11“For this commandment which I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach. 12“It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will go up to heaven for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ 13“Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will cross the sea for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ 14“But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may observe it.

                            Is God a Liar? Or is he telling the truth?

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                            • #15
                              Galatians 6

                              2Bear one another’s burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ.

                              1 Corinthians 9

                              21to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law.

                              John 13

                              34“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35“By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”


                              We see there is a difference between Works of the law vs Law of God, Law of Spirit, Law of Faith and Law of Christ.


                              Here is the verse that has you trapped:


                              Romans 3

                              28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.



                              Exactly ONE VERSE LATER he goes into detail of WORKS of the LAW


                              29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also,

                              In other words if we are justified by WORKS OF THE LAW rather than FAITH, It would be GOD of the JEWS ONLY! And everyone would have to be circumcised.


                              He gives the CLEAR CONTRAST if we are under "WORKS OF THE LAW" it means judiazer's lead.




                              1 corinthians 9

                              20To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law;21to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law.

                              Here again the distinction. He points out with the Jews who are under the law, He says well I am not under the law. "though not being myself under the Law,"

                              He clearly says he IS NOT under the law.

                              "though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ,"

                              He clearly says he IS under the law.


                              So here is all you have to do to get out of your knot. Find for us the LAW OF CHRIST, THE ROYAL LAW. Look at Galatians 6.



                              This all comes back to the Faith Alone controversy. If it has love in it. That is a GOOD WORK. And it is REQUIRED.


                              If you say Your faith alone has NO GOOD WORK in it, Being devoid of Love then it is evil. We simply will not budge unless there is a HINT of love in there.

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