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  • A "prayer" to Mary...

    I have put down on here some Marian prayers before, that I found thoroughly blasphemous, like the prayer to "Our Lady of Perpetual Hope" I think it is called.. Well, here is another one. I put it on another thread on here, but it got lost with all of the "mother of God" debate. So, I am giving it its own thread.

    This prayer is also from diLiguouri's book THE GLORIES OF MARY ,section 2:

    PRAYER.

    I venerate, oh most pure Virgin Mary, thy most sacred heart, which was the delight and repose of God ; a heart filled with humility, purity, and divine love. I, an unhappy sinner, come to thee with a heart filled with uncleanness and wounds. Oh mother of mercy, do not on this account despise me, but let it excite thee to a greater compassion, and come to my help. Do not look for virtue or merits in me before thou grantest me thy aid ; I am lost, and only merit hell. Look at nothing, I pray thee, but the confidence I have in thee, and the desire I cherish of amending my life. Look at what Jesus has done and suffered for me, and then abandon me if thou canst. I offer to thee all the afflictions of his life, the cold that he suffered in the stable, his journey to Egypt, the blood that he shed, his poverty, toil, sweat, and sadness, the death he endured in thy presence, for love of me ; and, for the love of Jesus, promise to save me. Ah, my mother, I will not and I cannot fear that thou wilt cast me from thee, when I flee to thee and implore thy help. To fear this, would be unjust to thy mercy, which seeks the miserable to relieve them. Oh Lady, do not refuse thy compassion to him to whom Jesus has not refused his blood ; but the merits of this blood will not be applied to me, if thou dost not recommend me to God, From thee I hope salvation. I do not ask of thee riches, honors, or the other goods of earth ; I only ask of thee the grace of God, love for thy Son, the fulfilment of his will, and paradise, where I may love him eternally. Is it possible that thou wilt not hear me ? No, already thou dost hear me, as I hope ; already thou art praying for me, already thou art procuring me the favors I ask, already thou art receiving me under thy protection. My mother, do not leave me ; continue, continue to pray for me, until thou seest me safe in heaven at thy feet, to bless and thank thee through all eternity. Amen
    This whole prayer is awful, but the bolded part is the worst, in my opinion. Do Catholics really think that Christ's blood won't cover our sins UNLESS Mary recommends us to God?

    And we have hope for salvation from MARY? She is our hope? What then is Jesus Christ:

    https://dailyverses.net/hope

    And also note the last sentence in this "prayer"....safe in heaven at MARY's feet? To thank and bless HER? Instead of safe at Jesus' feet to bless and thank HIM for all eternity?

    So, how is this prayer NOT worship of Mary? I don't want any nonsense about "hyper-dulia" because nowhere in Scripture are we told to do that with mere humans, no matter how nice and noble they are and were.

    To God alone in Christ Jesus our Lord be ALL the glory!
    "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
    "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
    “It’s easy to fool a man, but nearly impossible to convince him he's been fooled. --Mark Twain."
    "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
    "If the truth hurts--then it is working."--anonymous

  • #2
    Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
    I have put down on here some Marian prayers before, that I found thoroughly blasphemous, like the prayer to "Our Lady of Perpetual Hope" I think it is called.. Well, here is another one. I put it on another thread on here, but it got lost with all of the "mother of God" debate. So, I am giving it its own thread.

    This prayer is also from diLiguouri's book THE GLORIES OF MARY ,section 2:



    This whole prayer is awful, but the bolded part is the worst, in my opinion. Do Catholics really think that Christ's blood won't cover our sins UNLESS Mary recommends us to God?

    And we have hope for salvation from MARY? She is our hope? What then is Jesus Christ:

    https://dailyverses.net/hope

    And also note the last sentence in this "prayer"....safe in heaven at MARY's feet? To thank and bless HER? Instead of safe at Jesus' feet to bless and thank HIM for all eternity?

    So, how is this prayer NOT worship of Mary? I don't want any nonsense about "hyper-dulia" because nowhere in Scripture are we told to do that with mere humans, no matter how nice and noble they are and were.

    To God alone in Christ Jesus our Lord be ALL the glory!
    That is a "new" prayer to me.. . and indeed is blasphemy
    Have I now become your enemy because I tell you the truth ? Gal 4:16

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
      I have put down on here some Marian prayers before, that I found thoroughly blasphemous, like the prayer to "Our Lady of Perpetual Hope" I think it is called.. Well, here is another one. I put it on another thread on here, but it got lost with all of the "mother of God" debate. So, I am giving it its own thread.

      This prayer is also from diLiguouri's book THE GLORIES OF MARY ,section 2:



      This whole prayer is awful, but the bolded part is the worst, in my opinion. Do Catholics really think that Christ's blood won't cover our sins UNLESS Mary recommends us to God?

      And we have hope for salvation from MARY? She is our hope? What then is Jesus Christ:

      https://dailyverses.net/hope

      And also note the last sentence in this "prayer"....safe in heaven at MARY's feet? To thank and bless HER? Instead of safe at Jesus' feet to bless and thank HIM for all eternity?

      So, how is this prayer NOT worship of Mary? I don't want any nonsense about "hyper-dulia" because nowhere in Scripture are we told to do that with mere humans, no matter how nice and noble they are and were.

      To God alone in Christ Jesus our Lord be ALL the glory!
      Wow. And they still maintain they do not worship Mary ...

      I offer to thee all the afflictions of his life, the cold that he suffered in the stable, his journey to Egypt, the blood that he shed, his poverty, toil, sweat, and sadness, the death he endured in thy presence, for love of me ; and, for the love of Jesus, promise to save me.


      We are either in the process of resisting God's truth or in the process of being shaped and molded by his truth … Charles Stanley

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      • #4
        Originally posted by nan View Post
        Wow. And they still maintain they do not worship Mary ...

        I offer to thee all the afflictions of his life, the cold that he suffered in the stable, his journey to Egypt, the blood that he shed, his poverty, toil, sweat, and sadness, the death he endured in thy presence, for love of me ; and, for the love of Jesus, promise to save me.
        in those 'prayers', they tell us who their Savior is and it isn't Christ. and we know who promotes that - the RCC.
        Sadly many more people will fall for its deception, which has one source and it is not God.

        "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

        The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
          This whole prayer is awful, but the bolded part is the worst, in my opinion. Do Catholics really think that Christ's blood won't cover our sins UNLESS Mary recommends us to God?

          And we have hope for salvation from MARY? She is our hope? What then is Jesus Christ:
          Where is the "I feel sick" emoji when you need it? This is not an expression of Christianity at all.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Johan View Post

            Where is the "I feel sick" emoji when you need it? This is not an expression of Christianity at all.
            as I was opening this thread to see what you posted, that is exactly what I was thinking - 'this just makes me sick inside'. some days I just can't read what catholics post here about this stuff. It really shows where their priority is, and it isn't Christ. but then, we already know that.

            "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

            The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
              I have put down on here some Marian prayers before, that I found thoroughly blasphemous, like the prayer to "Our Lady of Perpetual Hope" I think it is called.. Well, here is another one. I put it on another thread on here, but it got lost with all of the "mother of God" debate. So, I am giving it its own thread.

              This prayer is also from diLiguouri's book THE GLORIES OF MARY ,section 2:



              This whole prayer is awful, but the bolded part is the worst, in my opinion. Do Catholics really think that Christ's blood won't cover our sins UNLESS Mary recommends us to God?

              And we have hope for salvation from MARY? She is our hope? What then is Jesus Christ:

              https://dailyverses.net/hope

              And also note the last sentence in this "prayer"....safe in heaven at MARY's feet? To thank and bless HER? Instead of safe at Jesus' feet to bless and thank HIM for all eternity?

              So, how is this prayer NOT worship of Mary? I don't want any nonsense about "hyper-dulia" because nowhere in Scripture are we told to do that with mere humans, no matter how nice and noble they are and were.

              To God alone in Christ Jesus our Lord be ALL the glory!
              I think you are asking valid questions.

              The problem is that most RCCs do not understand that Mary can not saved us or damn us. She has no power, she had no power on earth and being in heaven does not give her any powers. It is worshipping Mary, it is giving her god like attributes eg forgiveness of sins. If she saves it must mean she forgives sin. She could forgive others in her lifetime as we are all told to do but she cannot do saving forgiveness which is God's alone. 1 John 1:9 it is only Jesus who can forgive us and purify our unrighteousness.

              Isaiah 1:18 she cannot take us from scarlet to snowy white. Once she is placed in this powerful position, she is given godlike status and therefore these prayers are worshipping her.

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              • #8
                Catholics worship Mary every time they sing this song.


                Hail, holy Queen enthroned above, O Maria.
                Hail, Queen of mercy and of love, O Maria.

                Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                Our life, our sweetness, here below, O Maria!
                Our hope in sorrow and in woe, O Maria!

                Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                To thee we cry, poor sons of Eve, O Maria!
                To thee we sigh, we mourn, we grieve, O Maria!

                Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                Turn then most gracious Advocate, O Maria!
                Toward us thine eyes compassionate, O Maria!

                Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                The cause of joy to men below, O Maria!
                The spring through which all graces flow, O Maria!

                Angels, all your praises bring, Earth and heaven, with us sing,
                All creation echoing:
                Salve, salve, salve Regina!
                The protest against Rome will not end as long as I have one breath of air in my lungs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by leonard03782 View Post
                  Catholics worship Mary every time they sing this song.


                  Hail, holy Queen enthroned above, O Maria.
                  Hail, Queen of mercy and of love, O Maria.

                  Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                  Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                  Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                  Our life, our sweetness, here below, O Maria!
                  Our hope in sorrow and in woe, O Maria!

                  Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                  Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                  Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                  To thee we cry, poor sons of Eve, O Maria!
                  To thee we sigh, we mourn, we grieve, O Maria!

                  Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                  Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                  Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                  Turn then most gracious Advocate, O Maria!
                  Toward us thine eyes compassionate, O Maria!

                  Triumph, all ye cherubim, Sing with us, ye seraphim,
                  Heaven and earth resound the hymn:
                  Salve, salve, salve Regina!

                  The cause of joy to men below, O Maria!
                  The spring through which all graces flow, O Maria!

                  Angels, all your praises bring, Earth and heaven, with us sing,
                  All creation echoing:
                  Salve, salve, salve Regina!
                  I had to google "who is Regina". Turns out the name means queen. Why was I not surprised?
                  The protest against Rome will not end as long as I have one breath of air in my lungs.

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                  • #10
                    Yes, it does. And "rex" means "king."

                    Mary is not the queen of heaven or anything. She was a wonderful, sweet lady and the mother of our Lord in His humanity and I honor and love her as such. But beyond that, I will NOT go and give her the praise that rightfully belongs ONLY TO HER SON.
                    Last edited by Bonnie; 07-02-19, 08:08 AM.
                    "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                    "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                    “It’s easy to fool a man, but nearly impossible to convince him he's been fooled. --Mark Twain."
                    "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                    "If the truth hurts--then it is working."--anonymous

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                    • #11
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                      "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                      "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                      “It’s easy to fool a man, but nearly impossible to convince him he's been fooled. --Mark Twain."
                      "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                      "If the truth hurts--then it is working."--anonymous

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                      • #12
                        EDITED

                        Who has said 'all catholics are going to hell'? Got that link for us to read? So instead of engaging in the thread you trash it. Its a valid complaint except for those that agree with Ligouri. His whole book is verbal vomit. But i've had catholics agree with what he says, even regarding her omnipotence. So MF heres your opportunity to distance yourself from Ligouri and the obvious mary worship. Do you agree with your 'saint' and 'dr' of the church or not?
                        Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
                          I have put down on here some Marian prayers before, that I found thoroughly blasphemous, like the prayer to "Our Lady of Perpetual Hope" I think it is called.. Well, here is another one. I put it on another thread on here, but it got lost with all of the "mother of God" debate. So, I am giving it its own thread.

                          This prayer is also from diLiguouri's book THE GLORIES OF MARY ,section 2:



                          This whole prayer is awful, but the bolded part is the worst, in my opinion. Do Catholics really think that Christ's blood won't cover our sins UNLESS Mary recommends us to God?

                          And we have hope for salvation from MARY? She is our hope? What then is Jesus Christ:

                          https://dailyverses.net/hope

                          And also note the last sentence in this "prayer"....safe in heaven at MARY's feet? To thank and bless HER? Instead of safe at Jesus' feet to bless and thank HIM for all eternity?

                          So, how is this prayer NOT worship of Mary? I don't want any nonsense about "hyper-dulia" because nowhere in Scripture are we told to do that with mere humans, no matter how nice and noble they are and were.

                          To God alone in Christ Jesus our Lord be ALL the glory!
                          Hopefully Ligouri repented of this nonsense before he met his maker. If not, then i'm sure he regrets every word hes written about mary that is blasphemous to say the least. Catholics claim to love mary so much, yet their fantasies about her are shameful and steal glory from Jesus who alone is savior!
                          Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

                            Who has said 'all catholics are going to hell'? Got that link for us to read? So instead of engaging in the thread you trash it. Its a valid complaint except for those that agree with Ligouri. His whole book is verbal vomit. But i've had catholics agree with what he says, even regarding her omnipotence. So MF heres your opportunity to distance yourself from Ligouri and the obvious mary worship. Do you agree with your 'saint' and 'dr' of the church or not?
                            I am in agreement with you. I do not recall anyone saying that all RCCs were doomed.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by balshan View Post

                              I am in agreement with you. I do not recall anyone saying that all RCCs were doomed.
                              I didn't see anything like that, either. But people make idols out of whatever it is they put their faith and trust in MORE than in Jesus Christ our Lord. So I think that any Catholic who trusts Mary more than Jesus for salvation may very well be doomed. But Jesus is the ultimate judge not I.

                              I remember when JPII was shot...it saddens me that he cried out to Mary his "mother" instead of to Jesus Christ. His first instinct was to call upon HER for protection, instead of in Jesus Christ, the "Rock of our salvation." That to me shows who had pre-eminence in his heart.
                              "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                              "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                              “It’s easy to fool a man, but nearly impossible to convince him he's been fooled. --Mark Twain."
                              "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                              "If the truth hurts--then it is working."--anonymous

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