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What in the World is Wrong with the Rich Young Ruler?

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  • What in the World is Wrong with the Rich Young Ruler?

    And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; Honor your father and mother; and You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept… Mt 19:16-20.


    Why does the Rich Young Ruler claim that he is good immediately after Jesus told Him only God is good?

    If he had meant to cast you away he would have done so long ago. If he wanted reasons for rejecting you he had reasons from all eternity, for he knew what you would be. No sin in you has been a surprise to him. C.H. Spurgeon

  • #2
    Originally posted by Howie View Post
    And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; Honor your father and mother; and You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept… Mt 19:16-20.


    Why does the Rich Young Ruler claim that he is good immediately after Jesus told Him only God is good?
    Because the rich young man really HAD NO CLUE what he was talking about, so Jesus hit him with a specific requirement which wasn't in the LAW (Sell what you have, give to the poor) that Jesus KNEW he wouldn't be able/willing to perform.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

      Because the rich young man really HAD NO CLUE what he was talking about, so Jesus hit him with a specific requirement which wasn't in the LAW (Sell what you have, give to the poor) that Jesus KNEW he wouldn't be able/willing to perform.
      True. The rich young ruler neither kept the commandments, because if he had, he would have been good, and Jesus had just told him only God was good, nor did he give his belongings to the poor.

      If he had meant to cast you away he would have done so long ago. If he wanted reasons for rejecting you he had reasons from all eternity, for he knew what you would be. No sin in you has been a surprise to him. C.H. Spurgeon

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

        Because the rich young man really HAD NO CLUE what he was talking about, so Jesus hit him with a specific requirement which wasn't in the LAW (Sell what you have, give to the poor) that Jesus KNEW he wouldn't be able/willing to perform.
        His love of his riches, shows that he did not put God above all else. So he has broken the main commandment. This is also the problem in the RCC as they prefer to go bankrupt, move the asset around to avoid doing what is right which is to give redress to the victims of the church.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Howie View Post
          True. The rich young ruler neither kept the commandments, because if he had, he would have been good, and Jesus had just told him only God was good, nor did he give his belongings to the poor.
          Luke 1:5-6, "In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly order of Abijah. His wife was a descendant of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. Both of them were righteous before God, living blamelessly according to all the commandments and regulations of the Lord. "

          So Luke was wrong about Zechariah and Elizabeth?
          "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot

          "There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still." Betsy ten Boom

          "God in His deepest mystery is not a solitude, but a family, since He has in Himself fatherhood, sonship, and the essence of the family, which is love." John Paul II

          ’Then Mary said, ‘Here am I, the servant of the Lord; let it be with me according to your word.’ One of the greatest responses in all of scripture.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

            Luke 1:5-6, "In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly order of Abijah. His wife was a descendant of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. Both of them were righteous before God, living blamelessly according to all the commandments and regulations of the Lord. "

            So Luke was wrong about Zechariah and Elizabeth?
            Seems to be necessary to quote this one again:

            If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless. (Phil. 3:4-6)

            ... in contrast to ...

            We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do - this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. (Rom. 7:14-20)

            What Paul demonstrates is that it is possible to follow the Law to the letter, yet being a wretched sinner sold as a slave to sin. Food for thought.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

              Luke 1:5-6, "In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly order of Abijah. His wife was a descendant of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. Both of them were righteous before God, living blamelessly according to all the commandments and regulations of the Lord. "

              So Luke was wrong about Zechariah and Elizabeth?
              No, are you kidding me? You are wrong in your understanding of what blameless before the law means.

              Three things...

              1) "...by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin." (Rom 3:20) Unfortunately, Roman Catholics will never believe that.

              and

              2) Keeping all of the commandments and regulations of the law includes offering all of the appropriate sacrifices for one's personal sins


              3) "Beware the dogs...[you] put no confidence in the flesh, although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless...It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all. Php 3:6; 1 Tim 1:15.

              So because I'm certain you won't understand what's being pointed out here, the bottom line is, a Jew could be both blameless before all of the law of God, while at the same time being the foremost sinner of all sinners.

              So I continue to call you to repentance and urge you submit to Gospel of Jesus Christ in faith or you will perish...!
              If he had meant to cast you away he would have done so long ago. If he wanted reasons for rejecting you he had reasons from all eternity, for he knew what you would be. No sin in you has been a surprise to him. C.H. Spurgeon

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

                Luke 1:5-6, "In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly order of Abijah. His wife was a descendant of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. Both of them were righteous before God, living blamelessly according to all the commandments and regulations of the Lord. "

                So Luke was wrong about Zechariah and Elizabeth?
                King David was a man after God's own heart (Acts13:22), righteous. He committed murder and adultery, weren't they a sins.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

                  Luke 1:5-6, "In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly order of Abijah. His wife was a descendant of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. Both of them were righteous before God, living blamelessly according to all the commandments and regulations of the Lord. "

                  So Luke was wrong about Zechariah and Elizabeth?
                  How is that related to the op.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                    Because the rich young man really HAD NO CLUE what he was talking about, so Jesus hit him with a specific requirement which wasn't in the LAW (Sell what you have, give to the poor) that Jesus KNEW he wouldn't be able/willing to perform.
                    What a terrible thing to suggest.

                    What other "specific requirements" has Jesus made up to bring people down?

                    Reread in Mark 10:

                    17 And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 18 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” 20 And he said to him, “Teacher, all these I have kept from my youth.”21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” 22 Disheartened by the saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.


                    Would Jesus have loved the rich man if he had lied to Him? Look at this verse from John 14:


                    21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”



                    Jesus loved him because he did keep the commands!


                    Blessings
                    May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Philomena View Post

                      What a terrible thing to suggest.

                      What other "specific requirements" has Jesus made up to bring people down?
                      I can think of 10 just off the top of my head.

                      The purpose of the LAW is to DEMONSTRATE to people that they're UNABLE to obey it consistently.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                        I can think of 10 just off the top of my head.

                        The purpose of the LAW is to DEMONSTRATE to people that they're UNABLE to obey it consistently.
                        Then John 14:21 is what?? Impossible?
                        May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                          I can think of 10 just off the top of my head.

                          The purpose of the LAW is to DEMONSTRATE to people that they're UNABLE to obey it consistently.
                          The purpose of the law is order and righteousness.

                          Why do you think that God has written it on our hearts?
                          May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Philomena View Post

                            Then John 14:21 is what?? Impossible?
                            Absolutely. Fortunately we have an advocate when we fall.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Philomena View Post

                              The purpose of the law is order and righteousness.

                              Why do you think that God has written it on our hearts?
                              SO that we'll KNOW when we fall short.

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