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  • Question for TP2 and other Roman Catholic Priests

    TP - just out of curiosity, do you consider yourself a well-educated Roman Catholic priest, and for that reason you feel that you certainly know more about religion than any other non-Roman Catholic pastor?
    RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
    TP - just out of curiosity, do you consider yourself a well-educated Roman Catholic priest, and for that reason you feel that you certainly know more about religion than any other non-Roman Catholic pastor?
    I would say I am well educated. However, most of the non-Catholic Christian ministers I know also seem to be very well educated. The protestant emphasis is often scripture, so even though we have studied the entire Bible I would guess some protestant ministers would be more familiar with their scholarship. That is formal education: I have been doing self study and prayer for many years, so I don't know about anyone else who I don't really know. However, faith is not only about 'knowing more', but knowing and loving Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior. So I am more concerned with my prayer and my life serving Christ than I am about my 'formal Education'.
    Tuitio fidei et obsequium pauperum
    (Defense of the faith and assistance to the poor)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TP2 View Post

      I would say I am well educated. However, most of the non-Catholic Christian ministers I know also seem to be very well educated. The protestant emphasis is often scripture, so even though we have studied the entire Bible I would guess some protestant ministers would be more familiar with their scholarship. That is formal education: I have been doing self study and prayer for many years, so I don't know about anyone else who I don't really know. However, faith is not only about 'knowing more', but knowing and loving Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior. So I am more concerned with my prayer and my life serving Christ than I am about my 'formal Education'.
      TP2, have you ever read Mortalium Animos by Pope Pius XI?
      "The Holy Roman Church condemns, rejects, anathematizes and declares to be outside the Body of Christ, which is the Church, whoever holds opposing or contrary views. Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mysterium Fidei View Post

        TP2, have you ever read Mortalium Animos by Pope Pius XI?
        Isn't that the document that condemns universalism proposed by the liberal protestants?
        Tuitio fidei et obsequium pauperum
        (Defense of the faith and assistance to the poor)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TP2 View Post

          Isn't that the document that condemns universalism proposed by the liberal protestants?
          It's an encyclical that destroys the false ecumenism of the modern Novus Ordo sect. I suggest you give it read, it's very short.

          https://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius11/p11morta.htm
          "The Holy Roman Church condemns, rejects, anathematizes and declares to be outside the Body of Christ, which is the Church, whoever holds opposing or contrary views. Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TP2 View Post

            I would say I am well educated. However, most of the non-Catholic Christian ministers I know also seem to be very well educated. The protestant emphasis is often scripture, so even though we have studied the entire Bible I would guess some protestant ministers would be more familiar with their scholarship. That is formal education: I have been doing self study and prayer for many years, so I don't know about anyone else who I don't really know. However, faith is not only about 'knowing more', but knowing and loving Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior. So I am more concerned with my prayer and my life serving Christ than I am about my 'formal Education'.
            RC priests are very educated in their church doctrine but not the scriptures..

            Have I now become your enemy because I tell you the truth ? Gal 4:16

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Calsgal View Post

              RC priests are very educated in their church doctrine but not the scriptures..
              Sad, but oh so true Calsgal.......
              And, like the vast majority of Roman Catholic priests they most definitely consider their "Church" to be in a class all by itself. It's the Church, the Roman Catholic Church with a capital C. When in the spotlight, they do publicly say though, that they believe that the rest of Christendom is to be respected, but remains nevertheless, one step below them. "Separated brethren, as the RCC calls them with a forked tongue, are at best different. At worst, they are considered nothing but members of breakaway churches started by heretics and rebels.
              RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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              • #8
                Catholic guys have to spend a long time in school before they are admitted to the RC priesthood. At least 6 or 8 years. One of my bosses back in the 1990's quit to become a low level RC deacon, and I think he had to go to classes for 3 or 4 years for an unpaid job.

                With that kind of investment in time and money, I can understand why the Magisterium is tempted to let priests slide on a lot of things, once they get in there.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Southsider View Post
                  Catholic guys have to spend a long time in school before they are admitted to the RC priesthood. At least 6 or 8 years. One of my bosses back in the 1990's quit to become a low level RC deacon, and I think he had to go to classes for 3 or 4 years for an unpaid job.

                  With that kind of investment in time and money, I can understand why the Magisterium is tempted to let priests slide on a lot of things, once they get in there.
                  Yep, all a Protestant has to do is pick up their Bible and decide for themselves what it means.
                  "The Holy Roman Church condemns, rejects, anathematizes and declares to be outside the Body of Christ, which is the Church, whoever holds opposing or contrary views. Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TP2 View Post

                    Isn't that the document that condemns universalism proposed by the liberal protestants?
                    TP2, do you pray often to "Saint" Paul VI? Do you have a strong devotion to this great saint of Modernism that probably bears more responsibility than any other human being for the destruction of the Catholic Church and the Catholic Faith in the souls of millions?
                    "The Holy Roman Church condemns, rejects, anathematizes and declares to be outside the Body of Christ, which is the Church, whoever holds opposing or contrary views. Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mysterium Fidei View Post

                      Yep, all a Protestant has to do is pick up their Bible and decide for themselves what it means.
                      That's not true at all.

                      The Bible says what it says and means what it means. And pastors are mostly all educated men with sheepskins from bible colleges.

                      The difference is that the RCC demands as much education from its prospective priests than Johns Hopkins demands from it's neurosurgeons. That's an incredible investment, and IMHO, a bit of a waste.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Calsgal View Post

                        RC priests are very educated in their church doctrine but not the scriptures..
                        What is the reason why most Roman Catholic families response is so strongly negative and combative when one of their family member announces that he or she, because of their desire to follow Christ, has chosen another church? Yet, if that same family member announced that he or she had chosen to become an RCC priest or a nun as their lifelong committed vocation, the Roman Catholic family's response would be joyous and celebrate?
                        RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Southsider View Post

                          That's not true at all.

                          The Bible says what it says and means what it means. And pastors are mostly all educated men with sheepskins from bible colleges.

                          The difference is that the RCC demands as much education from its prospective priests than Johns Hopkins demands from it's neurosurgeons. That's an incredible investment, and IMHO, a bit of a waste.
                          If the Bible says what it says and means what it means, then no one has to go to Bible college. The Holy Spirit explains everything, right?
                          May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Philomena View Post

                            If the Bible says what it says and means what it means, then no one has to go to Bible college. The Holy Spirit explains everything, right?
                            And we have a myriad of denominations to boot.
                            "Heretical teachers pervert Scripture and try to get into Heaven with a false key, for they have formed their human assemblies later than the Catholic Church. Pope St. Clement I (88-97)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Philomena View Post
                              If the Bible says what it says and means what it means, then no one has to go to Bible college. The Holy Spirit explains everything, right?
                              no one has to go to a bible college to study.

                              2 Timothy 2.15 kjv -

                              Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


                              "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

                              The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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