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    Though submission to Rome is at the heart of what it means to be a Roman Catholic, the RCC is nevertheless finding it very difficult these days to keep it's increasingly feisty flock in line. Now more than ever before, educated Roman Catholics living in free and pluralistic societies are questioning Rome's teaching on a variety of topics, just like the ex-Roman Catholics in this forum do, asking knowledgeable questions on many topics such as: artificial contraception, divorce, reception of the Eucharist by divorced and remarried Roman Catholics, priestly celibacy, the ordination of women, general absolution, academic freedom for teachers and theologians, and the relationship of national conferences of bishops to the Vatican, to mention just a few without even getting into the issues and disputes regarding "Mary" and the 'dead saints.' The vast majority of those who remain Roman Catholic stay only on their own terms, accepting some aspects of the faith, redefining others, and rejecting the rest. How long will the RCC continue to dance around and ignore these important issues?
    RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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    Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
    Though submission to Rome is at the heart of what it means to be a Roman Catholic, the RCC is nevertheless finding it very difficult these days to keep it's increasingly feisty flock in line. More than ever, educated Roman Catholics living in free and pluralistic societies are questioning Rome's teaching on a variety of topics, just like the ex-Roman Catholics in this forum do, such as: artificial contraception, divorce, reception of the Eucharist by divorced and remarried Roman Catholics, priestly celibacy, the ordination of women, general absolution, academic freedom for teachers and theologians, and the relationship of national conferences of bishops to the Vatican, to mention just a few without even getting into the whole "Mary" thing. The vast majority of those who remain Roman Catholic stay only on their own terms, accepting some aspects of the faith, redefining others, and rejecting the rest. How long will the RCC continue to dance around and ignore these important issues?


    The Amazon Synod, now being conducted in the RCC, is considering where to allow Priests to get married. So the issues are being discussed.

    I would not be surprised to see married RC priests and nuns sooner rather than later.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Southsider View Post



      The Amazon Synod, now being conducted in the RCC, is considering where to allow Priests to get married. So the issues are being discussed.

      I would not be surprised to see married RC priests and nuns sooner rather than later.
      The devil wouldn't have any problem "giving ground' on unimportant little meaningless minutea like THAT - as long as he can KEEP THEM IN THE DARK about CRITICAL issues, like how a person is SAVED, and becomes a Christian!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

        The devil wouldn't have any problem "giving ground' on unimportant little meaningless minutea like THAT - as long as he can KEEP THEM IN THE DARK about CRITICAL issues, like how a person is SAVED, and becomes a Christian!!!
        Well at least if they allowed married priests, in would mean their children would not be born out of wedlock.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
          Though submission to Rome is at the heart of what it means to be a Roman Catholic, the RCC is nevertheless finding it very difficult these days to keep it's increasingly feisty flock in line. Now more than ever before, educated Roman Catholics living in free and pluralistic societies are questioning Rome's teaching on a variety of topics, just like the ex-Roman Catholics in this forum do, asking knowledgeable questions on many topics such as: artificial contraception, divorce, reception of the Eucharist by divorced and remarried Roman Catholics, priestly celibacy, the ordination of women, general absolution, academic freedom for teachers and theologians, and the relationship of national conferences of bishops to the Vatican, to mention just a few without even getting into the issues and disputes regarding "Mary" and the 'dead saints.' The vast majority of those who remain Roman Catholic stay only on their own terms, accepting some aspects of the faith, redefining others, and rejecting the rest. How long will the RCC continue to dance around and ignore these important issues?
          So see should leave the CC and become a sola scripture Christian where the controversial topics are settled.
          "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot

          "There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still." Betsy ten Boom

          "God in His deepest mystery is not a solitude, but a family, since He has in Himself fatherhood, sonship, and the essence of the family, which is love." John Paul II

          ’Then Mary said, ‘Here am I, the servant of the Lord; let it be with me according to your word.’ One of the greatest responses in all of scripture.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by balshan View Post

            Well at least if they allowed married priests, in would mean their children would not be born out of wedlock.
            SInce BIBLICALLY , when a priest joins flesh with a Nun (or other female participant), they ARE MARRIED in God's sight, so the resultant child will NOT be born out of wedlock. (the law, and the church clam otherwise, they's just being Biblically Dishonest, as Roman Catholics tend to be by practice and Tradition.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

              SInce BIBLICALLY , when a priest joins flesh with a Nun (or other female participant), they ARE MARRIED in God's sight, so the resultant child will NOT be born out of wedlock. (the law, and the church clam otherwise, they's just being Biblically Dishonest, as Roman Catholics tend to be by practice and Tradition.
              I have no argument with that. Of course some would have many wives.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by balshan View Post

                I have no argument with that. Of course some would have many wives.
                And we would be surprised at the concept of "Adulterous Priests"??? (chuckle)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Southsider View Post



                  The Amazon Synod, now being conducted in the RCC, is considering where to allow Priests to get married. So the issues are being discussed.

                  I would not be surprised to see married RC priests and nuns sooner rather than later.
                  I wouldn't be surprised either to see married RC priests, as I know it is a hotbed of discontent in Europe and North America. Over 2 million Roman Catholics in Germany and Austria signed petitions calling for the Vatican to make celibacy for priest optional. But do you think they will open up the priesthood to women, or recognize a "primacy of conscience" in regard to the use of artificial birth control. Similar petitions are now circulating in the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, Spain, and France. Once proudly described as the "eldest daughter of the roman Catholic Church, France is now being called Rome's "most rebellious child." lol
                  RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                    The devil wouldn't have any problem "giving ground' on unimportant little meaningless minutea like THAT - as long as he can KEEP THEM IN THE DARK about CRITICAL issues, like how a person is SAVED, and becomes a Christian!!!
                    Amen to that!
                    RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Southsider View Post



                      The Amazon Synod, now being conducted in the RCC, is considering where to allow Priests to get married. So the issues are being discussed.

                      I would not be surprised to see married RC priests and nuns sooner rather than later.
                      A vast majority of European Roman Catholics have stopped listening to the Church altogether, so it doesn't matter what the Amazon Synod says or changes.
                      RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                        SInce BIBLICALLY , when a priest joins flesh with a Nun (or other female participant), they ARE MARRIED in God's sight, so the resultant child will NOT be born out of wedlock. (the law, and the church clam otherwise, they's just being Biblically Dishonest, as Roman Catholics tend to be by practice and Tradition.
                        Agreed, to much attention is placed upon the rituals by many Christians from both sides. Those rituals are for the audiences benefit and not the couples. Some even see in a way that only those married by a priest are really married, and forget all that God said.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

                          So see should leave the CC and become a sola scripture Christian where the controversial topics are settled.
                          What "controversial" topics are you talking about Ridlobeding?

                          Artificial contraception, divorce, reception of the Eucharist by divorced and remarried Roman Catholics, priestly celibacy, the ordination of women, general absolution, academic freedom for teachers and theologians, and the relationship of national conferences of bishops to the Vatican.

                          Which of these "controversial" topics has the Church not spoken on and settled long ago?
                          "The Holy Roman Church condemns, rejects, anathematizes and declares to be outside the Body of Christ, which is the Church, whoever holds opposing or contrary views.” Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DMBD View Post

                            Agreed, to much attention is placed upon the rituals by many Christians from both sides. Those rituals are for the audiences benefit and not the couples. Some even see in a way that only those married by a priest are really married, and forget all that God said.
                            My folks ran into that back in the '30s. Dad was a "Christmas and Easter Catholic", and mom was a Born Again Baptist. They married with a J.P. presiding, but had to "Do it over" in a Catholic ceremony to keep peace in the Carabbio family - so I could be "Legitimate".

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

                              So see should leave the CC and become a sola scripture Christian where the controversial topics are settled.
                              Your strawman arguments are tiring. This has been answered ad nauseam. What you should focus on is leaving the kingdom of darkness and becoming a child of God. THEN your priorities will change. Take care of your eternal destination. Your tirades are not getting you any closer to the kingdom.
                              Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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