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  • What Exactly Does the RCC Teach Concerning Salvation?

    What do Roman Catholic popes emphasize as being the official teaching and belief of the Roman Catholic Church concerning salvation?
    RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
    What do Roman Catholic popes emphasize as being the official teaching and belief of the Roman Catholic Church concerning salvation?
    Since it varies continuously, the only one that is consistent is: WE ARE THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH!! DO IT OUR WAY OR BURN!!!!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
      What do Roman Catholic popes emphasize as being the official teaching and belief of the Roman Catholic Church concerning salvation?
      They are all over the map. A ship without a rudder or compass. For catholics the rules are strict. No assurance of salvation, work work work and maybe just maybe if you've died in a state of grace with piles of venial sin but no mortal sin, you can make it to purgatory where you can expiate or atone for your own sin.

      People that know nothing of Jesus or the church (invincible ignorance ccc 1260) can please whatever deity they have, work to please it and 'can' get to heaven. Its a mixed bag of theological nonsense either way.
      Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

        Since it varies continuously, the only one that is consistent is: WE ARE THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH!! DO IT OUR WAY OR BURN!!!!
        So, being loyal to Rome is high on the priority list of who gets to heaven and how they accomplish that thru being a member of the RCC?
        RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

          They are all over the map. A ship without a rudder or compass. For catholics the rules are strict. No assurance of salvation, work work work and maybe just maybe if you've died in a state of grace with piles of venial sin but no mortal sin, you can make it to purgatory where you can expiate or atone for your own sin.

          People that know nothing of Jesus or the church (invincible ignorance ccc 1260) can please whatever deity they have, work to please it and 'can' get to heaven. Its a mixed bag of theological nonsense either way.
          Do Roman Catholic priests stand a better chance of getting to heaven than the habitually faithful every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation Roman Catholic pew warmers?
          RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post

            So, being loyal to Rome is high on the priority list of who gets to heaven and how they accomplish that thru being a member of the RCC?
            BINGO!!! The "HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH" is "the one true church" and nobody else's theology means SPIT.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

              BINGO!!! The "HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH" is "the one true church" and nobody else's theology means SPIT.
              Ya know, one thing that is so funny about the RCC's theology, beliefs and mandates is that according to one of the most thorough polls taken of American Roman Catholic clergy, is that over 3/4 of RCC priests reject the view that the only hope a person has for heaven is through a personal faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Instead they believe that 'heaven is a divine reward for those who earn it by their good life.'
              RC's do know God, but the Bible indicates that it is a knowledge in condemnation, a knowledge enabling them to know things about themselves and the world around them, even though they suppress the truth of God which makes such knowledge possible.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
                What do Roman Catholic popes emphasize as being the official teaching and belief of the Roman Catholic Church concerning salvation?
                Most of it revolves around the Sacraments.
                "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot

                "There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still." Betsy ten Boom

                "God in His deepest mystery is not a solitude, but a family, since He has in Himself fatherhood, sonship, and the essence of the family, which is love." John Paul II

                ’Then Mary said, ‘Here am I, the servant of the Lord; let it be with me according to your word.’ One of the greatest responses in all of scripture.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

                  Most of it revolves around the Sacraments.
                  What does your daily life have to do with the Lord's Supper?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rldlolbeding View Post

                    Most of it revolves around the Sacraments.
                    Mary forbid that salvation revolves solely around the Lord Jesus Christ.
                    1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Raynebeau View Post
                      What do Roman Catholic popes emphasize as being the official teaching and belief of the Roman Catholic Church concerning salvation?
                      it is there in the bible. the bible teaches that one's final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, 'He who endures to the end will be saved' (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ramcam2 View Post
                        it is there in the bible. the bible teaches that one's final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, 'He who endures to the end will be saved' (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell.
                        only those who are born again die in 'friendship with God'.

                        those would be people who aren't born again.


                        "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

                        The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mica View Post
                          only those who are born again die in 'friendship with God'.

                          those would be people who aren't born again.

                          born again the bible way or your version of born again?

                          support answer with verse/s please.

                          thanks.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ramcam2 View Post
                            born again the bible way or your version of born again?

                            support answer with verse/s please. thanks.
                            they are the same. and its been supported by verses on here over and over.
                            the John Ankenberg show recently (the last 3 wks) a series on that. half hour programs. he had Erwin Lutzer on and it was a q and a type format. you could look them up online and watch them. I'm sure he gave the verses for support when he answered questions. a total of 1.5 hrs of teaching regarding being born again.

                            btw, why did JTB say that baptism would change with the coming of Jesus?

                            "I was changed, redeemed, forgiven before the blood was dry.

                            The debt I owed was canceled in the twinkling of an eye."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mica View Post
                              they are the same. and its been supported by verses on here over and over.
                              the John Ankenberg show recently (the last 3 wks) a series on that. half hour programs. he had Erwin Lutzer on and it was a q and a type format. you could look them up online and watch them. I'm sure he gave the verses for support when he answered questions. a total of 1.5 hrs of teaching regarding being born again.

                              btw, why did JTB say that baptism would change with the coming of Jesus?
                              are they your authority in bible interpretation? if yes, your basis for saying so. thanks.

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