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The Promises of the First Fridays

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  • The Promises of the First Fridays

    The RCC teaches that young French woman, Margaret Alacoque spoke with Jesus, who supposed conveyed to her the importance of received holy communion on 9 consecutive Fridays. Allocate reported the words of Jesus as follows "I promise you in the excessive mercy of My Heart that My all-powerful love will grant to all those who shall receive communion on the First Friday in nine consecutive months the grace of final penitence; they shall not die in My disgrace nor without receiving their sacraments; My Divine Heart shall be their safe refuge in this last moment"

    Now, to me, and I'm not a bible scholar by any stretch although I've read the scriptures- Jesus' worlds to Alacoque really don't sound like they came from the Jesus that speaks in the Bible. I just can't see Jesus speaking to the apostles in this voice.

    My question is about the promise here however. It seems as though the RCC is saying once you do the First Friday scam, you're "in like flynn", you are destined for the pearly gates no matter what.

    Is that your interpretation? A gal that I used to work with years ago told me that her bf was working on this "scam" (her word) when God would have to take him as part of this deal. So it is at least the theological opinions of some.

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    Do you think Jesus would speak to a Catholic more like the way that you and your 'holy' 'saved' friends here do?
    The crones love their cliques!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mercedes View Post
      Do you think Jesus would speak to a Catholic more like the way that you and your 'holy' 'saved' friends here do?
      What does your question have anything to do with the OP? The Question is about Jesus, not man.
      Goats love their tea!

      Strong's #3982

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mercedes View Post
        Do you think Jesus would speak to a Catholic more like the way that you and your 'holy' 'saved' friends here do?
        Nothing but voices of hatred respond.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mercedes View Post
          Do you think Jesus would speak to a Catholic more like the way that you and your 'holy' 'saved' friends here do?


          No, I think that Jesus would speak to Roman Catholics in the same voice as He spoke to non-Catholics as recorded in Scripture.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Southsider View Post
            The RCC teaches that young French woman, Margaret Alacoque spoke with Jesus, who supposed conveyed to her the importance of received holy communion on 9 consecutive Fridays. Allocate reported the words of Jesus as follows "I promise you in the excessive mercy of My Heart that My all-powerful love will grant to all those who shall receive communion on the First Friday in nine consecutive months the grace of final penitence; they shall not die in My disgrace nor without receiving their sacraments; My Divine Heart shall be their safe refuge in this last moment"

            Now, to me, and I'm not a bible scholar by any stretch although I've read the scriptures- Jesus' worlds to Alacoque really don't sound like they came from the Jesus that speaks in the Bible. I just can't see Jesus speaking to the apostles in this voice.

            My question is about the promise here however. It seems as though the RCC is saying once you do the First Friday scam, you're "in like flynn", you are destined for the pearly gates no matter what.

            Is that your interpretation?
            A gal that I used to work with years ago told me that her bf was working on this "scam" (her word) when God would have to take him as part of this deal. So it is at least the theological opinions of some.
            No, not at all. The promise is "the grace of final penitence". As always, it is up to us how we receive God's grace.

            Blessings
            May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Philomena View Post

              No, not at all. The promise is "the grace of final penitence". As always, it is up to us how we receive God's grace.

              Blessings


              So in your view, Philomena, the official First Fridays Promise has nothing to do with guaranteeing salvation? Do you think other RC's have the same understanding as yourself?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Southsider View Post



                So in your view, Philomena, the official First Fridays Promise has nothing to do with guaranteeing salvation? Do you think other RC's have the same understanding as yourself?
                Does it say that it guarantees salvation? No, it does not.

                It offers grace.

                Blessings
                May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Philomena View Post

                  Does it say that it guarantees salvation? No, it does not.

                  It offers grace.

                  Blessings
                  How many types of grace do catholics have to be offered?
                  Eph 5:11 And do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them NASB

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Southsider View Post



                    No, I think that Jesus would speak to Roman Catholics in the same voice as He spoke to non-Catholics as recorded in Scripture.
                    I find that Jesus has a different 'voice' depending on the author of the writing who is recalling it. These recollections were written years after the death Jesus.
                    The crones love their cliques!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

                      How many types of grace do catholics have to be offered?
                      Not 'types of grace.... 'means' of grace.
                      The crones love their cliques!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nondenom40 View Post

                        How many types of grace do catholics have to be offered?
                        There are two kinds of grace: sanctifying and actual.

                        Blessings
                        May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Southsider View Post



                          So in your view, Philomena, the official First Fridays Promise has nothing to do with guaranteeing salvation? Do you think other RC's have the same understanding as yourself?
                          It is a spiritual aid for salvation, an offer of grace at the moment of death. It is not a guarantee.

                          Blessings
                          May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and ineffable Name of God be forever praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on Earth, and under the Earth by all the creatures of God and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Philomena View Post

                            It is a spiritual aid for salvation, an offer of grace at the moment of death. It is not a guarantee.

                            Blessings
                            Wait a minute here; why the "Promises of the First Fridays" when you have Mary praying for you at the hour of your death.
                            Oh wait, I think I know; multiple additional aids are required, since Christ's shed blood, death, burial, and resurrection was not sufficient.
                            1Peter 1:18,19 Redeemed ... with the precious blood of Christ

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PeanutGallery View Post
                              Wait a minute here; why the "Promises of the First Fridays" when you have Mary praying for you at the hour of your death.
                              Oh wait, I think I know; multiple additional aids are required, since Christ's shed blood, death, burial, and resurrection was not sufficient.
                              They are disciplines that assist a Christian in orienting their whole lives to prayer, praise, thanksgiving and petition. Lots of us now and in history recognise that the pull of our humanness away from our spiritual, is very pervasive and powerful. Having a commitment to a devotional discipline helps to keep us attentive to our spiritual growth. That is a great grace.
                              The crones love their cliques!

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