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Acts 10:34-35 A summary of the gospel

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  • #16

    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post
    Originally posted by mathias View Post
    He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1

    To the unbelieving Jews, He was a mere man with a fallen nature:

    But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 2 Cor 4
    If Jesus sinned He would have our sinful nature. Since Jesus did not sin He did not have a nature full of sin, He simply took our weakened nature and
    And bestowed life.

    While we were weak, at the right time Christ died as a substitute for the ungodly.
    God's love has been abundantly poured out through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. Rom 5
    Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post
    ...still did not sin. In reference to salvation He took our sin, vicariously, and carried those sins to the cross. He was punished for what we deserve that we may partake of His righteousness of which we do not deserve but this is granted to us through His grace.
    For His divine power has bestowed on us spiritual life through a true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory...Through His promises you partake in the divine nature,...2 Peter 1

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post
      Acts 10:34-35 NKJV "Then Peter opened his mouth and said: In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him." This is the NT version of Ecclesiastes 12:13-14. The same gospel from Eden to Revelation. God does not change.
      Luke's teaching is about God fearing Gentiles,
      who are saved by works.


      Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post
      God does not change.


      Even though we have known Christ
      according to the
      (literal) flesh
      yet now we know Him thus no longer
      (2 Cor 5:16).

      He laid down His divine attributes (Phil 2:7),
      while He was incarnated as flesh but now has a glorified body.

      That cannot mean that

      Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb 13:8).
      The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
      Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

        Luke's teaching is about God fearing Gentiles,
        who are saved by works.






        Even though we have known Christ
        according to the
        (literal) flesh
        yet now we know Him thus no longer
        (2 Cor 5:16).

        He laid down His divine attributes (Phil 2:7),
        while He was incarnated as flesh but now has a glorified body.

        That cannot mean that

        Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb 13:8).
        Luke taught the gospel - period. The Gentiles were not saved by works but by faith in Jesus which then produced good works. Jesus has always been the same in character, but not the same in body for the Bible is clear that Jesus came to take on the human nature of Abraham and of David and live out a perfect life, and did not ever sin.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

          I see you believe in original sin but does the bible teach it. Augustine did.

          Death was passed down to us because Adam sinned.

          The question to ask is what caused Adam to sin and if you can answer that then you can see how it applies to all men except Christ who did not sin because he was filled with God's grace and truth.



          It is not because Adam sinned that humanity is born in sin ( humanity is not born in sin) but what caused Adam to sin is the same thing that causes humanity to sin. They do not inherit a sin nature but they do inherit what Adam had that caused him to sin.

          One must sin to be a sinner not be born in it!

          Jesus as the Son of God was the only one who was able to overcome temptation by God's grace and truth and did not sin.

          God bless you,

          SeventhDay
          No, I do not believe in original sin. I do believe in the fact that Jesus came to take on the nature of Abraham and David, and still never gave in to Satan's temptations and thus He never chose to sin.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

            No, I do not believe in original sin. I do believe in the fact that Jesus came to take on the nature of Abraham and David, and still never gave in to Satan's temptations and thus He never chose to sin.
            Okay. I agree with you on this.

            God bless you,

            SeventhDay

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

              Acts 10:34-35 NKJV "Then Peter opened his mouth and said: In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him." This is the NT version of Ecclesiastes 12:13-14. The same gospel from Eden to Revelation. God does not change.

              Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

              Luke taught the gospel - period.
              Adventists must be saved by fear and working righteousness !!!!
              The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
              Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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              • #22
                None of the rulers of this age understood it,..."for what no human mind has conceived”... God has revealed to us by his Spirit. 1 Cor 2:7-10
                Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                Even though we have known Christ
                according to the
                (literal) flesh
                yet now we know Him thus no longer
                (2 Cor 5:16).

                He laid down His divine attributes (Phil 2:7),
                while He was incarnated as flesh but now has a glorified body.


                Many portions of Scripture completely affirm His deity, showing that at no time did He lose His divine nature.
                He is eternal (John 17:5; Heb. 1:11-12), omnipresent (Matt. 28:20), and omnipotent (Heb. 1:3). The Scriptures show Him to be the Creator of all things (John 1:3; Col 1:16; Heb. 1:2), the One who holds all things in the universe together (Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3). He alone as God offers forgiveness of sins (Luke 5:20-24), and all men will face Him in judgment (John 5:24-28). Thus, the fact of Christ’s full deity has clear biblical support.

                Paul summarizes this: “For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form” (Col. 2:9).
                bible.org
                Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                That cannot mean that
                Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb 13:8).
                Now the Lord [Jesus Christ] is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 2 Corinthians 3:16-17


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                • #23
                  None of the rulers of this age understood it,..."for what no human mind has conceived... God has revealed to us by his Spirit. 1 Cor 2:7-10
                  Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                  Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh yet now we know Him thus no longer (2 Cor 5:16).

                  He laid down His divine attributes (Phil 2:7), while He was incarnated as flesh but now has a glorified body.
                  Many portions of Scripture completely affirm His deity, showing that at no time did He lose His divine nature.
                  He is eternal (John 17:5; Heb. 1:11-12), omnipresent (Matt. 28:20), and omnipotent (Heb. 1:3). The Scriptures show Him to be the Creator of all things (John 1:3; Col 1:16; Heb. 1:2), the One who holds all things in the universe together (Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3). ..As [the Son of Man He has the authority to forgive sins] (Luke 5:20-24), and all men will face Him in judgment (John 5:24-28). Thus, the fact of Christ's full deity has clear biblical support.

                  Paul summarizes this: “For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form (Col. 2:9). bible.org

                  Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                  That cannot mean that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever(Heb 13:8).
                  Now the Lord [Jesus Christ] is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 2 Corinthians 3:16-17

                  Last edited by mathias; 08-25-18, 11:20 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                    Even though we have known Christ
                    according to the
                    (literal) flesh
                    yet now we know Him thus no longer
                    (2 Cor 5:16).

                    He laid down His divine attributes (Phil 2:7),
                    while He was incarnated as flesh but now has a glorified body.

                    That cannot mean that

                    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb 13:8).
                    Originally posted by mathias View Post
                    None of the rulers of this age understood it,..."for what no human mind has conceived... God has revealed to us by his Spirit. 1 Cor 2:7-10


                    Many portions of Scripture completely affirm His deity, showing that at no time did He lose His divine nature.
                    He is eternal (John 17:5; Heb. 1:11-12), omnipresent (Matt. 28:20), and omnipotent (Heb. 1:3). The Scriptures show Him to be the Creator of all things (John 1:3; Col 1:16; Heb. 1:2), the One who holds all things in the universe together (Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3). ..As [the Son of Man He has the authority to forgive sins] (Luke 5:20-24), and all men will face Him in judgment (John 5:24-28). Thus, the fact of Christ's full deity has clear biblical support.

                    Paul summarizes this: “For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form (Col. 2:9). bible.org



                    Now the Lord [Jesus Christ] is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 2 Corinthians 3:16-17

                    Last edited by mathias; 08-25-18, 11:20 PM.
                    You didn't refute what I wrote.

                    therefore my case stands.
                    The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                    Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                      Luke's teaching is about God fearing Gentiles, who are saved by works.

                      Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh
                      yet now we know Him thus no longer (2 Cor 5:16).

                      He laid down His divine attributes (Phil 2:7),
                      while He was incarnated as flesh but now has a glorified body.

                      That cannot mean that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb 13:8).
                      Originally posted by mathias View Post
                      None of the rulers of this age understood it,..."for what no human mind has conceived... God has revealed to us by his Spirit. 1 Cor 2:7-10

                      Many portions of Scripture completely affirm His deity, showing that at no time did He lose His divine nature.
                      He is eternal (John 17:5; Heb. 1:11-12), omnipresent (Matt. 28:20), and omnipotent (Heb. 1:3). The Scriptures show Him to be the Creator of all things (John 1:3; Col 1:16; Heb. 1:2), the One who holds all things in the universe together (Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3). ..As [the Son of Man He has the authority to forgive sins] (Luke 5:20-24), and all men will face Him in judgment (John 5:24-28). Thus, the fact of Christ's full deity has clear biblical support.

                      Paul summarizes this: For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form (Col. 2:9). bible.org

                      Now the Lord [Jesus Christ] is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 2 Corinthians 3:16-17
                      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                      You didn't refute what I wrote. therefore my case stands.
                      Your biased opinion has nothing to do with it. He did not say that He would be clothed with divinity after the resurrection, He said:
                      "I and the Father are one." John 10:30
                      Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                      Luke's teaching is about God fearing Gentiles, who are saved by works.
                      BTW, the God fearing Gentile's expectation comes from God. No flesh will be justified in His sight by human endeavor.
                      Last edited by mathias; 08-26-18, 11:50 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post
                        Acts 10:34-35 NKJV " But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him."

                        Luke's teaching is about God fearing Gentiles,
                        who are saved by works.
                        Originally posted by mathias View Post


                        No flesh will be justified in His sight by human endeavor.
                        Working righteousness produces salvation according to your 'inspired' Luke.

                        The Roman Canon condemns your own theology.


                        The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                        Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mathias View Post
                          Your biased opinion has nothing to do with it. He did not say that He would be clothed with divinity after the resurrection, He said: "I and the Father are one." John 10:30
                          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                          Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post
                          Acts 10:34-35 NKJV " But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him."
                          Luke's teaching is about God fearing Gentiles, who are saved by works.
                          BTW, the God fearing Gentile's expectation comes from God. No flesh will be justified in His sight by human endeavor.
                          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                          Working righteousness produces salvation according to your 'inspired' Luke.
                          Working righteousness has nothing to do with human endeavor, aka: "But when I seek to overcome to the best of my ability..."

                          17 "The way of peace they do not know. 18"There is no fear of God before their eyes."
                          Righteousness Through Faith
                          21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Rom 3:17
                          Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                          The Roman Canon condemns your own theology.
                          You are full of opinions.

                          CANON I.-If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, ...let him be anathema.
                          Last edited by mathias; 08-26-18, 11:06 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Greg Goodchild View Post

                            Acts 10:34-35 NKJV " But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him."

                            Originally posted by Conqueror View Post

                            Working righteousness produces salvation according to your 'inspired' Luke.

                            The Roman Canon condemns your own theology.


                            Originally posted by mathias View Post

                            You are full of opinions.

                            CANON I.-If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, ...let him be anathema.

                            I don't care for your Catholic opinions !!!!

                            You are refuted by your 'inspired' Luke.




                            The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                            Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mathias View Post
                              Righteousness Through Faith
                              21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. Rom 3:17
                              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                              The Roman Canon condemns your own theology.
                              You are full of opinions.

                              CANON I.-If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, ...let him be anathema.
                              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                              I don't care for your Catholic opinions !!!!
                              As it turns out you brought it up. In any case, the only gospel that concerns me is this one:

                              Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself [as a sacrifice of atonement] for our sins [to save us] us from this present corrupt age, in accordance with the will and purpose and plan of our God and Father 5 to Him be [ascribed all] the glory through the ages of the ages. Amen. Gal 1
                              Originally posted by Conqueror View Post
                              You are refuted by your 'inspired' Luke.
                              That's all in your mind. I happen to be in one accord with the inspired Luke.

                              The Scriptures Opened
                              Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, Luke 24
                              Last edited by mathias; 08-27-18, 12:00 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mathias View Post

                                Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, Luke 24
                                Those who are mastered by Rome
                                don't have a ceremony in which their minds are opened.

                                But that doesn't stop them as posing as experts
                                The 2 end-time prophets will preach a return to the FOUNDATIONAL apostles and prophets to those, who are intoxicated on the Roman harlotry of adding tares to the word of God
                                Get rid of the dross in the Roman Canon - Raise My Word to the HIGHEST place

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