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  • Happy Shadow

    To all the SDA’s on CARM.

    The Sabbath is a SHADOW.

    The reality is Christ.

    Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    Colossians 2:12-18 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...

    Bible Gateway passage: Colossians 2:12-18 - King James Version






  • #2
    Originally posted by Albur Tan View Post
    To all the SDA’s on CARM.

    The Sabbath is a SHADOW.

    The reality is Christ.

    Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    Colossians 2:12-18 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...

    Bible Gateway passage: Colossians 2:12-18 - King James Version




    Hi Albur

    You quoted from the fake apostle Paul!

    Isaiah 66: 23 says FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER!

    Yeshua did NOT became the Sabbath ! Paul TRICKED you! 2 Cor 12: 16

    If YESHUA is the Sabbath ? Isaiah would have said FROM ONE YESHUA TO ANOTHER! Read below prayfully plz.


    Isaiah 66:23 New International Version (NIV)
    23 "From one New Moon to another and FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER , all mankind will come and bow down before me,” says the Lord"

    Fear God and keep his commandments,
    for this is the duty of ALL mankind. Ecc 12: 13

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DANNO View Post

      Hi Albur

      You quoted from the fake apostle Paul!

      Isaiah 66: 23 says FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER!

      Yeshua did NOT became the Sabbath ! Paul TRICKED you! 2 Cor 12: 16

      If YESHUA is the Sabbath ? Isaiah would have said FROM ONE YESHUA TO ANOTHER! Read below prayfully plz.


      Isaiah 66:23 New International Version (NIV)
      23 "From one New Moon to another and FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER , all mankind will come and bow down before me,” says the Lord"

      Yes you have been tricked into rejecting the whole of the New Testament including the 4 Gospels and the Jesus of the true Gospel.

      Isaiah 65 and 66 are about the return of the people to the land of Israel = please read the account in context.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Albur Tan View Post


        Yes you have been tricked into rejecting the whole of the New Testament including the 4 Gospels and the Jesus of the true Gospel.

        Isaiah 65 and 66 are about the return of the people to the land of Israel = please read the account in context.
        Who told you that lie that I reject the whole of the NT? The Holy Spirit or Satan ?

        So how is it that it says FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER? In Isaiah 66: 23
        Fear God and keep his commandments,
        for this is the duty of ALL mankind. Ecc 12: 13

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DANNO View Post

          Hi Albur

          You quoted from the fake apostle Paul!

          Isaiah 66: 23 says FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER!

          Yeshua did NOT became the Sabbath ! Paul TRICKED you! 2 Cor 12: 16

          If YESHUA is the Sabbath ? Isaiah would have said FROM ONE YESHUA TO ANOTHER! Read below prayfully plz.


          Isaiah 66:23 New International Version (NIV)
          23 "From one New Moon to another and FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER , all mankind will come and bow down before me,” says the Lord"
          You're FUNNY!!!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DANNO View Post

            Who told you that lie that I reject the whole of the NT? The Holy Spirit or Satan ?

            So how is it that it says FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER? In Isaiah 66: 23


            As I posted previously..... which you ignored.... https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...48#post5671248


            When, the question of the Apostle Paul's authenticity comes into question, these are the considerations.......

            First, there are 27 books in the New Testament.

            Paul wrote 14 of those books (Romans, 1 & 2 Cor., Gal, Eph, Philippians, Col, 1 & 2 Thess, 1 & 2 Tim, Titus, Philemon, and many say Hebrews).

            If you remove Paul, you are now left with only 13 books in the NT, or are you?

            You see, both Luke and Peter name Paul as an Apostle, so if you remove Paul as false, then you have to remove both Luke and Peter.

            Luke wrote 2 books (Luke & Acts).

            Peter wrote 2 books (1 & 2 Peter).

            So now you have to remove 4 more books leaving you with only 9 books, or does it?

            You see, both Matthew and Mark were written after Luke wrote "Luke", in fact both of them quote Luke in their books, so now you have to remove Matthew and Mark, 2 more books gone.

            Now you only have 7 books left, or do you?

            You see, John was the last to write, and he quotes Mark, so now you have to remove John. Well John wrote 5 books of the NT (John, 1 & 2 & 3 John, and Revelation).

            So now you have to remove 5 more books, leaving you with only 2 books in the NT, James and Jude. James is identified as Jesus' half-brother and Jude is James brother.

            Well, since the only place where Jesus is named is in the books which you had to already throw out, and it is there where James is identified, guess you'll have to throw out James as well! 1 book left, and guess what, Jude is James' brother, so too goes the book of Jude.

            Guess how many books are left?


            ZERO...0 books!

            God knew what He was doing when the Bible was put together, each piece dependent on the others such that it must be taken as a whole. The disciples of Jesus knew and acknowledge Paul, and so should we all!

            [Thanks to my friend Daniel.]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Albur Tan View Post



              As I posted previously..... which you ignored.... https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/ch...48#post5671248


              When, the question of the Apostle Paul's authenticity comes into question, these are the considerations.......

              First, there are 27 books in the New Testament.

              Paul wrote 14 of those books (Romans, 1 & 2 Cor., Gal, Eph, Philippians, Col, 1 & 2 Thess, 1 & 2 Tim, Titus, Philemon, and many say Hebrews).

              If you remove Paul, you are now left with only 13 books in the NT, or are you?

              You see, both Luke and Peter name Paul as an Apostle, so if you remove Paul as false, then you have to remove both Luke and Peter.

              Luke wrote 2 books (Luke & Acts).

              Peter wrote 2 books (1 & 2 Peter).

              So now you have to remove 4 more books leaving you with only 9 books, or does it?

              You see, both Matthew and Mark were written after Luke wrote "Luke", in fact both of them quote Luke in their books, so now you have to remove Matthew and Mark, 2 more books gone.

              Now you only have 7 books left, or do you?

              You see, John was the last to write, and he quotes Mark, so now you have to remove John. Well John wrote 5 books of the NT (John, 1 & 2 & 3 John, and Revelation).

              So now you have to remove 5 more books, leaving you with only 2 books in the NT, James and Jude. James is identified as Jesus' half-brother and Jude is James brother.

              Well, since the only place where Jesus is named is in the books which you had to already throw out, and it is there where James is identified, guess you'll have to throw out James as well! 1 book left, and guess what, Jude is James' brother, so too goes the book of Jude.

              Guess how many books are left?


              ZERO...0 books!

              God knew what He was doing when the Bible was put together, each piece dependent on the others such that it must be taken as a whole. The disciples of Jesus knew and acknowledge Paul, and so should we all!

              [Thanks to my friend Daniel.]
              Who inspired you to write all that . Satan or the Holy Spirit?

              Show me where Peter called Paul an apostle?

              Are you aware Peter did NOT write 2nd Peter ? Do a thorough research.

              Are you aware Luke and Mark were NOT apostles and cannot fit in Rev 21: 14 ?

              Matt 27: 44 says BOTH thieves cursed YESHUA ! Luke 23: 39-40 says ONLY ONE THIEF CURSED YESHUA and the other was offered paradise!

              Are you willing to say the HOLY SPIRIT inspired both accounts and that the thief in Luke account went to HEAVEN that day ?
              When did YESHUA go to Heaven ?

              Are you prepared to say the Holy Spirit inspired the book of Hebrews?
              First read this link > https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/th...ook-of-hebrews
              Fear God and keep his commandments,
              for this is the duty of ALL mankind. Ecc 12: 13

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                You're FUNNY!!!!
                You think I planted Isaiah 66: 23 in your bible?

                Has your chukling stoped?
                Fear God and keep his commandments,
                for this is the duty of ALL mankind. Ecc 12: 13

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DANNO View Post

                  You think I planted Isaiah 66: 23 in your bible?

                  Has your chukling stoped?
                  Make a note: Danno thinks Isaiah is "Scripture". I agree. It's just difficult to keep the Biblical mutilations of you and the "C" man straight - you reject PAUL, and He rejects Luke, Mark, Jude, Hebrews, Psalms, but likes Paul. And he's tossed most of the Old Testament except Isaiah. It seems like your individual "Angels of Light" tend to lead each of y'all in opposite directions. It'd probably help if you published a list of ALL the Bible Books that YOU reject.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                    Make a note: Danno thinks Isaiah is "Scripture". I agree. It's just difficult to keep the Biblical mutilations of you and the "C" man straight - you reject PAUL, and He rejects Luke, Mark, Jude, Hebrews, Psalms, but likes Paul. And he's tossed most of the Old Testament except Isaiah. It seems like your individual "Angels of Light" tend to lead each of y'all in opposite directions. It'd probably help if you published a list of ALL the Bible Books that YOU reject.
                    All your words are recorded in Heaven . Matt 12: 36-37
                    Fear God and keep his commandments,
                    for this is the duty of ALL mankind. Ecc 12: 13

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DANNO View Post

                      All your words are recorded in Heaven . Matt 12: 36-37
                      Yup, and the Books WILL BE OPENED at the appropriate time. (Threats don't work on me, unless driven HOME by the Holy Spirit).

                      (Chuckle)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DANNO View Post

                        Who inspired you to write all that . Satan or the Holy Spirit?

                        Show me where Peter called Paul an apostle?

                        Are you aware Peter did NOT write 2nd Peter ? Do a thorough research.

                        Are you aware Luke and Mark were NOT apostles and cannot fit in Rev 21: 14 ?

                        Matt 27: 44 says BOTH thieves cursed YESHUA ! Luke 23: 39-40 says ONLY ONE THIEF CURSED YESHUA and the other was offered paradise!

                        Are you willing to say the HOLY SPIRIT inspired both accounts and that the thief in Luke account went to HEAVEN that day ?
                        When did YESHUA go to Heaven ?

                        Are you prepared to say the Holy Spirit inspired the book of Hebrews?
                        First read this link > https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/th...ook-of-hebrews
                        You accept Peter and Peter endorsed Paul and his ministry. You haven’t addressed the issues in my post AT ALL.

                        The outcome of your belief is to reject all of the New Testament.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Albur Tan View Post

                          You accept Peter and Peter endorsed Paul and his ministry. You haven’t addressed the issues in my post AT ALL.

                          The outcome of your belief is to reject all of the New Testament.
                          Peter did not write 2nd Peter. Do your research

                          Perer did not live long enough to read ALL of Paul's books. .

                          " You see, both Luke and Peter name Paul as an Apostle, so if you remove Paul as false, then you have to remove both Luke and Peter."

                          Show me where Peter calls Paul an Apostle?

                          What convinced you after 50 yrs in the SDA church that you have been decieved ?
                          Last edited by DANNO; 11-10-18, 08:46 PM.
                          Fear God and keep his commandments,
                          for this is the duty of ALL mankind. Ecc 12: 13

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