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As most of you are aware, we had a crash to forums and were down for over two days a while back. We did have to do an upgrade to the vbulletin software to fix the forums and that has created changes, VB no longer provide the hybrid or threaded forums. There are some issues/changes to the forums we are not able to fix or change. Also note the link address change, please let friends and posters know of the changed link to the forums. For now this is the only link available, https://forums.carm.org/vb5/ but if clicking on forum on carm.org homepage it will now send you to this link. (edited to add https: now working.

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Diane S
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Not fully Informed? Yes.

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  • Not fully Informed? Yes.

    'JWs always misinterpret 1 Peter 3:18 by saying the Spirit there is Jesus but they’re wrong.'

    One would think from that only the JWs only so interpret. Really?

    But Is that fully informing the reader or only partly and hence misinforming? The following will answer.

    Do JW's misinterpret 1 Peter 3.18? If so does W.E.Vine, M. F. Unger and W.White in [u]Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary Old and New Testament Words[/], under SPIRIT(PNEUMA),e "the resurrection body".- p,593?

    The New Linguistic and Exegetical Key to the Greek N.T., Cleon Rogers Jr and Cleon Rogers III says the expression could either be the Holy Spirit or to the spirit of the Christ. -see page 576.

    A Manual Greek Lexicon of the N.T. by Abbott-Smith places PNEUMA of 1 Peter 3.18 not under "Holy Spirit,"(section 5} but under it's section 2 "Of the vital principle."

    A Grammatical Analysis of the Greek N.T. by Max Zerwick and Mark Zerwick states PNEUMA here at 1 Peter 3.18 means "in the spiritual sphere."

    The NIV Theological Dictionary of N.T. Words edited by Verlyn D Verbrugge says PNEUMA here refers to "the mode of existence in life beyond death." -p.1061.


    Add to the above are the many Bible translations that have not Spirit but spirit here at 1 Peter 3.18. eg, NASB, NRSV and those by Weymouth, Barclay, to mention just 4.

    So now.....our readers have been fully informed and can then make a fully informed choice.

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