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The Bloody Death Oaths from the Pre-1990 Mormon Temple Oaths

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  • The Bloody Death Oaths from the Pre-1990 Mormon Temple Oaths

    Many younger Mormons never went through the temple when the Mormons had to swear to bloody oaths promising to have their throat slit, etc., if they ever divulged the secrets they learned in the Mormon temple.

    Now we have a audio tape of the "secret" death oaths here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgsO58gTolY

    Here is a visual recording of the bloody oaths:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEKGPqu92EI

    While I realize that most Mormons can justify any kind of sin in their minds in an attempt to protect their "church" and their founder, Joseph Smith (a pedophile), it seems to be that the fact that the cult required "death oaths," directly borrowed from the Masons, as a penalty for revealing secrets would be proof enough to any thinking person that Mormonism has nothing at all to do with Christianity. It's a Gnostic religion (Gnostic meaning it teaches occult knowledge).

    Younger Mormons are duped. And if the Mormon deity revealed the original and eternal temple rites, how can they be changed?

    Note: we have had pre-1990 endowed Mormons here pretend that there never were any bloody oaths - they'll probably try to cast suspicion on the videos. But those with critical thinking skills will see, for themselves, that they are simply "lying for" their "lord."
    Last edited by Mod10; 05-17-18, 05:20 PM. Reason: Alert, no violation.
    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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    I also put down a link on another thread to the transcripts of the old endowment from 1931:

    https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/cu...et-along/page3

    Post no. 41.

    And wikipedia has this about the "penalties":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_(Mormonism)

    It is naive in the extreme for Mormon posters on here to deny that their church ever had this in its endowment ceremony. I would expect that from those born after 1990--i would imagine that their church wouldn't exactly inform them of the changes made in the endowment ceremony--but not from those born long before 1990. Plus, these oaths came straight from Freemasonry and have zero to do with Jesus Christ and what the Bible teaches us about Him and salvation.
    Last edited by Bonnie; 05-17-18, 11:42 AM.
    "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
    "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
    "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
    "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
    "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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    • #3
      I can tell you from personal experience that those deaths oaths were a part of the mormon temple ceremony.
      ~ There is life after mormonism, and it's good! Just stay close to Christ.
      ~ You can't follow Christ and false prophets at the same time.
      ~ "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Magdalena View Post
        I can tell you from personal experience that those deaths oaths were a part of the mormon temple ceremony.
        PLEASE tell me you intend to claim--again--that you promised to be murdered as a punishment for spilling temple secrets.
        I know it's not even close to my birthday, but I appreciate gifts ANY time of the year!
        "PWCSLWRTIMSL"="PeopleWhoCSLewisWasReferringToInMy SignatureLine"
        ..whenever a person's religious conversation dwells..even frequently on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bonnie View Post

          It is naive in the extreme for Mormon posters on here to deny that their church ever had this in its endowment ceremony. I would expect that from those born after 1990--i would imagine that their church wouldn't exactly inform them of the changes made in the endowment ceremony--but not from those born long before 1990. Plus, these oaths came straight from Freemasonry and have zero to do with Jesus Christ and what the Bible teaches us about Him and salvation.
          Bonnie ... who is denying it... why would you make such a claim? hmmm
          A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards. Proverbs

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia;[COLOR=#D3D3D3
            n5271622]Many younger Mormons never went through the temple when the Mormons had to swear to bloody oaths promising to have their throat slit, etc., if they ever divulged the secrets they learned in the Mormon temple.

            Now we have a audio tape of the "secret" death oaths here:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgsO58gTolY

            Here is a visual recording of the bloody oaths:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEKGPqu92EI

            While I realize that most Mormons can justify any kind of sin in their minds in an attempt to protect their "church" and their founder, Joseph Smith (a pedophile), it seems to be that the fact that the cult required "death oaths," directly borrowed from the Masons, as a penalty for revealing secrets would be proof enough to any thinking person that Mormonism has nothing at all to do with Christianity. It's a Gnostic religion (Gnostic meaning it teaches occult knowledge).

            Younger Mormons are duped. And if the Mormon deity revealed the original and eternal temple rites, how can they be changed?[/COLOR]

            Note: we have had pre-1990 endowed Mormons here pretend that there never were any bloody oaths - they'll probably try to cast suspicion on the videos. But those with critical thinking skills will see, for themselves, that they are simply "lying for" their "lord."

            Not any more stark then what you find in the Bible... chuckle...


            "And I will give the men that have transgressed my covenant, which have not performed the words of the covenant which they had made before me......I will even give them into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies shall be for meat unto the fowls of the heaven, and to the beasts of the earth." (Jeremiah 34:20)

            Deuteronomy 27:26:"Cursed [be] he that confirmeth not [all] the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen."





            Deuteronomy 28:15-68 ..."But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
            A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards. Proverbs

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            • #7
              Many younger Mormons never went through the temple when the Mormons had to swear to bloody oaths promising to have their throat slit, etc., if they ever divulged the secrets they learned in the Mormon temple.
              (from the OP)

              So.....How OLD must a Mormon be to have been forced to swear to bloody oaths promising to have their throat slit, etc., if they ever divulged the secrets they learned in the Mormon temple???

              Give us an age.
              "PWCSLWRTIMSL"="PeopleWhoCSLewisWasReferringToInMy SignatureLine"
              ..whenever a person's religious conversation dwells..even frequently on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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              • #8
                Originally posted by NRA-Jeff View Post
                (from the OP)

                So.....How OLD must a Mormon be to have been forced to swear to bloody oaths promising to have their throat slit, etc., if they ever divulged the secrets they learned in the Mormon temple???

                Give us an age.
                How old were you when you first made your covenants using these bloody oaths, Jeff?
                Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ralf View Post

                  Bonnie ... who is denying it... why would you make such a claim? hmmm
                  You know very well, Ralf, how the Mormons here denied this up and down. Now that they are faced with the proof, they try to skate around it.
                  Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
                    I also put down a link on another thread to the transcripts of the old endowment from 1931:

                    https://forums.carm.org/vb5/forum/cu...et-along/page3

                    Post no. 41.

                    And wikipedia has this about the "penalties":

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_(Mormonism)

                    It is naive in the extreme for Mormon posters on here to deny that their church ever had this in its endowment ceremony. I would expect that from those born after 1990--i would imagine that their church wouldn't exactly inform them of the changes made in the endowment ceremony--but not from those born long before 1990. Plus, these oaths came straight from Freemasonry and have zero to do with Jesus Christ and what the Bible teaches us about Him and salvation.
                    Amen. It's hard t believe that people who have actually read the Bible could participate in such tomfoolery. But, they have been blinded.
                    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NRA-Jeff View Post
                      (from the OP)

                      So.....How OLD must a Mormon be to have been forced to swear to bloody oaths promising to have their throat slit, etc., if they ever divulged the secrets they learned in the Mormon temple???

                      Give us an age.
                      It ended in 1990, right? So whatever age you were before then plus 28 years.
                      ~ There is life after mormonism, and it's good! Just stay close to Christ.
                      ~ You can't follow Christ and false prophets at the same time.
                      ~ "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NRA-Jeff View Post

                        PLEASE tell me you intend to claim--again--that you promised to be murdered as a punishment for spilling temple secrets.
                        I know it's not even close to my birthday, but I appreciate gifts ANY time of the year!
                        Everyone who took those vows before 1990 promised that they would suffer their lives to be taken rather than spilling temple secrets.
                        ~ There is life after mormonism, and it's good! Just stay close to Christ.
                        ~ You can't follow Christ and false prophets at the same time.
                        ~ "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Magdalena View Post

                          Everyone who took those vows before 1990 promised that they would suffer their lives to be taken rather than spilling temple secrets.
                          Yes. I think it was modified after the 1930's, to be less....dramatic and violent-sounding. Instead of saying that one would suffer one's throat to be slit or bowels torn out, I think it was just modified to saying "suffer my life to be taken" or something similar, but the throat-and-bowel slitting gestures still remained until 1990. Is that correct? Is that how you remember it?
                          "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                          "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                          "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                          "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                          "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ralf View Post


                            Not any more stark then what you find in the Bible... chuckle...


                            "And I will give the men that have transgressed my covenant, which have not performed the words of the covenant which they had made before me......I will even give them into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies shall be for meat unto the fowls of the heaven, and to the beasts of the earth." (Jeremiah 34:20)

                            Deuteronomy 27:26:"Cursed [be] he that confirmeth not [all] the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen."





                            Deuteronomy 28:15-68 ..."But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
                            Try giving us a reason (like a real answer) as to why any of those verses have anything to do with Masonic death vows taken in Mormon temples. Do you just randomly select verses you think have to do with violence?
                            Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

                              Amen. It's hard t believe that people who have actually read the Bible could participate in such tomfoolery. But, they have been blinded.
                              And indoctrinated to believe it is somehow "sacred." The true Jesus Christ of the Bible would have nothing to do with the Temple or its rituals.
                              "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                              "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                              "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                              "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                              "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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