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  • Justified?

    Were the people who participated in tar and feathering, torturing, harassing, and ultimately killing Joseph & Hyrum Smith, justified in their actions?

    If so, why were they justified, if not why not?

  • #2
    Tell us why Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered and killed?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by CTR-Lloyd View Post
      Were the people who participated in tar and feathering, torturing, harassing, and ultimately killing Joseph & Hyrum Smith, justified in their actions?

      If so, why were they justified, if not why not?
      Too silly a questions even to take seriously. Of course they were not justified, and showed no hint of being anything other than a satanic MOB, of depraved pagans scratching their "Blood Itch".

      Which, of course doesn't mean that the Mormon FOOLS that they mistrated were anything other than satanic false teachers, selling a PHONY religious system.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

        Too silly a questions even to take seriously. Of course they were not justified, and showed no hint of being anything other than a satanic MOB, of depraved pagans scratching their "Blood Itch".

        Which, of course doesn't mean that the Mormon FOOLS that they mistrated were anything other than satanic false teachers, selling a PHONY religious system.
        I agree it was a mob inspired by Satan.

        What I don’t understand is the second part, why would Satan inspire a group to stop “satanic false teachers”?

        Isn't Satan in the Satan promotion business?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Basset View Post
          Tell us why Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered and killed?
          Popular reasons given are because of political views, destroying the printing press, and being polygamous.

          Also to fulfill prophecy, and seal his testimony of the restoration.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CTR-Lloyd;n5325***

            I agree it was a mob inspired by Satan.

            What I don’t understand is the second part, why would Satan inspire a group to stop “satanic false teachers”?

            Isn't Satan in the Satan promotion business?
            Satan is in the Murdering, Lying, Deceiving, and People Damning business. What better way than to give the Mormon FOOLS "Legitimacy" by making Martyrs of 'em?? the devil would JUMP at the chance to trade a dozen of his FOOLS, if it could be played to ensnare THOUSANDS of fools in his phony religious system.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

              Satan is in the Murdering, Lying, Deceiving, and People Damning business. What better way than to give the Mormon FOOLS "Legitimacy" by making Martyrs of 'em?? the devil would JUMP at the chance to trade a dozen of his FOOLS, if it could be played to ensnare THOUSANDS of fools in his phony religious system.
              That’s a new take. Satan playing up the murdsrs to expand Mormonism.

              that is the first I have ever seen that described as a motive.

              Can you expand on that thought?

              do you think the church grew more because of Smiths death than if he had stayed alive?

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              • #8
                Why does satan threaten mormons into obedience during their temple ceremony? Why would satan want you to obey mormon oaths and commandments?
                ~ There is life after mormonism, and it's good! Just stay close to Christ.
                ~ You can't follow Christ and false prophets at the same time.
                ~ "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Magdalena View Post
                  Why does satan threaten mormons into obedience during their temple ceremony? Why would satan want you to obey mormon oaths and commandments?
                  I should think he would WANT them to disobey so they WOULD be in his power!

                  Those in Mormonism just don't think through all the ramifications of what they do and believe, to their logical end....and should we EVER obey Satan?
                  "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                  "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                  "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                  "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                  "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CTR-Lloyd View Post
                    do you think the church grew more because of Smiths death than if he had stayed alive?
                    Sure. If Smith has stayed alive and died RICH, and happy, he'd just have been another "religious Con-Man". AH!!! but being willing to embrace a brutal death "for the glory of God", and particularly with Brigham stepping in to continue the sales effort, the LDS idiocy has spread far and wide.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Basset View Post
                      Tell us why Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered and killed?
                      That was the question being asked in the OP.

                      Of course, reasons are not justifications, but I have noticed in here that they are seen as such more often than not.
                      Cet animal est très méchant,
                      Quand on l'attaque il se défend.

                      Translation: "This animal is very bad; when you attack it, it defends itself."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Basset View Post
                        Tell us why Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered and killed?
                        Because that is the fruit of extremist antimormonism, sometimes.
                        ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CTR-Lloyd;n5325***

                          I agree it was a mob inspired by Satan.

                          What I don’t understand is the second part, why would Satan inspire a group to stop “satanic false teachers”?

                          Isn't Satan in the Satan promotion business?

                          Yes, Satan is in the promotion of the cult business, and has been very successful as we can see. Satan raises up cult leaders, and disposes of cult leaders for a purpose...........in Smith's case, he was giving Mormonism a bad name with all his illicit and criminal sexual escapades. Satan, above all, likes to look like the "real thing," and Joe was going overboard with the sex stuff. Koresh did the same. Raising up some enemies of Smith (most likely due to the fact that Smith had disclosed Masonic secrets) was not hard to do. Men were afraid that their wives would be victimized by the Mormons sexually, and also opposed to Smith's huge boasts. Smith just wasn't a good tool for Satan anymore, and he was removed by Satan and the cult placed in the hands of Brigham Young, who obviously was no prophet, but was a great planner and businessman. Young was ruthless as well, and also a MASON. Freemasonry and Mormonism go hand in hand. One wonders about any connection between Smith's death and Young's Masonic ties. Who benefited by the death?
                          Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by NRA-Jeff View Post
                            Because that is the fruit of extremist antimormonism, sometimes.
                            No, he was making advances on one of the sisters of a man in your cult. Mormons did the deed.

                            "“The motivation for this mobbing has been debated. Clark Braden…alleged…that Marinda’s brother Eli led a mob against Smith because the prophet had been too intimate with Marinda. This tradition suggests that Smith may have married Marinda at this early time, and some circumstantial factors support such a possibility. The castration attempt might be taken as evidence that the mob felt that Joseph had committed a sexual impropriety; since the attempt is reported by [Marinda's brother who became LDS apostle] Luke Johnson, there is no good reason to doubt it. Also, they had planned the operation in advance, as they brought along a doctor to perform it. The first revelations had been received in 1831, by historian Danel Bachman’s dating. Also, Joseph did tend to marry women who had stayed at his house or in whose house he had stayed” (In Sacred Loneliness, page 231, Compton).
                            Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post


                              Yes, Satan is in the promotion of the cult business, and has been very successful as we can see. Satan raises up cult leaders, and disposes of cult leaders for a purpose...........in Smith's case, he was giving Mormonism a bad name with all his illicit and criminal sexual escapades. Satan, above all, likes to look like the "real thing," and Joe was going overboard with the sex stuff. Koresh did the same. Raising up some enemies of Smith (most likely due to the fact that Smith had disclosed Masonic secrets) was not hard to do. Men were afraid that their wives would be victimized by the Mormons sexually, and also opposed to Smith's huge boasts. Smith just wasn't a good tool for Satan anymore, and he was removed by Satan and the cult placed in the hands of Brigham Young, who obviously was no prophet, but was a great planner and businessman. Young was ruthless as well, and also a MASON. Freemasonry and Mormonism go hand in hand. One wonders about any connection between Smith's death and Young's Masonic ties. Who benefited by the death?
                              That is a fantastic alternate reality

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