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If You are a LDS Abuse Victim, you might want to think of LEAVING the cult

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  • If You are a LDS Abuse Victim, you might want to think of LEAVING the cult

    Misogyny in Mormonism has shaped that cults attitude toward abuse. As we all know, stories of sexual abuse in "the only true church on the face of the whole earth, and it's 'living' too" (whatever the heck that means) has had more than its share of reported abuse. Frankly, for a rather small group, they are right up there with the Romanists, I believe, percentage wise. So, if you are an abused woman in the MOMORN CULT, you might want to think of fleeing. After all, YOU could be responsible for being abused.

    1. Have you gained too much weight since being married, and now your husband abuses you or cheats on you?

    2. Do you dress too provocatively, and have therefore invited rape, by a stranger, or even a church elder?

    3. Do you work outside the home and neglect your wonderful husband, who must seek solace elsehwere?

    4. If you are a little kid, did you perhaps act in a promiscuous way? (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnpbqdetDK4 )

    Have your responsibility for being abused assessed by some old man who will report you is you have three piercings in your ear:
    "At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed. Apostle Scott, 1992 General Conference." (a video link to this speech is below. Apparently that is not sufficient for some Mormons).

    Let's see, you have a "priesthood leader" checking you out for a "degree of responsibility?" But, gosh, aren't those the

    very ones who have been guilty of abuse?

    WASHINGTON POST
    By Julie Zauzmer
    January 18, 2018

    Michael Jensen preyed on children in the close-knit Mormon community around Martinsburg, W.Va. At least, thatís how law enforcement officials and at least half a dozen families see it now.

    But for years, Jensen was a trusted member of the local church community, a young man whom Mormon leaders praised as a role model for youths ó and recommended as a babysitter for one child after another, even as reports allegedly came back to some church volunteers that Jensen was sexually abusing boys and girls as young as two.

    Five years ago, Jensen WENT T JAIL for abusing two children.

    But a group of parents say now that itís not just Jensen who should be held responsible; itís the much larger Mormon hierarchy in West Virginia that they believe failed to respond appropriately to complaints about Jensen. The six families, who all say their children were abused by Jensen, are suing local Mormon leaders and the global church.

    Like the Catholic Church, these parents say, the Mormon Church needs to be exposed for working to cloak the crimes of a community member against young children. For its part, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints argues ó in a case that goes to trial in Martinsburg this week ó that Mormons have a strong tradition of reporting all suspected child abuse to law enforcement.

    Read the rest of the horrible case here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.15074a283514

    And here's the One Million Dollar Question folks, what "degree of responsibility" did these kids have. SICKENING!
    Last edited by Catherine Aurelia; 09-10-18, 01:01 PM.
    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

  • #2
    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
    Misogyny in Mormonism has shaped that cults attitude toward abuse. As we all know, stories of sexual abuse in "the only true church on the face of the whole earth, and it's 'living' too" (whatever the heck that means) has had more than its share of reported abuse. Frankly, for a rather small group, they are right up there with the Romanists, I believe, percentage wise. So, if you are an abused woman in the MOMORN CULT, you might want to think of fleeing. After all, YOU could be responsible for being abused.

    1. Have you gained too much weight since being married, and now your husband abuses you or cheats on you?

    2. Do you dress too provocatively, and have therefore invited rape, by a stranger, or even a church elder?

    3. Do you work outside the home and neglect your wonderful husband, who must seek solace elsehwere?

    Have your responsibility for being abused assessed by some old man who will report you is you have three piercings in your ear:
    "At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed. Apostle Scott, 1992 General Conference."

    Let's see, you have a "priesthood leader" checking you out for a "degree of responsibility?" But, gosh, aren't those the

    very ones who have been guilty of abuse?

    WASHINGTON POST
    By Julie Zauzmer
    January 18

    Michael Jensen preyed on children in the close-knit Mormon community around Martinsburg, W.Va. At least, that’s how law enforcement officials and at least half a dozen families see it now.

    But for years, Jensen was a trusted member of the local church community, a young man whom Mormon leaders praised as a role model for youths — and recommended as a babysitter for one child after another, even as reports allegedly came back to some church volunteers that Jensen was sexually abusing boys and girls as young as two.

    Five years ago, Jensen WENT T JAIL for abusing two children.

    But a group of parents say now that it’s not just Jensen who should be held responsible; it’s the much larger Mormon hierarchy in West Virginia that they believe failed to respond appropriately to complaints about Jensen. The six families, who all say their children were abused by Jensen, are suing local Mormon leaders and the global church.

    Like the Catholic Church, these parents say, the Mormon Church needs to be exposed for working to cloak the crimes of a community member against young children. For its part, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints argues — in a case that goes to trial in Martinsburg this week — that Mormons have a strong tradition of reporting all suspected child abuse to law enforcement.

    And here's the One Million Dollar Question folks, what "degree of responsibility" did these kids have. SICKENING!
    Please post the references for the above quotes.

    If they are quotes.

    If they are not, please justify your using them as if they are.
    Providing a proper reference/citation for a quote says nothing. Refusing to provide a proper reference/citation for a quote says everything: it’s a credibility killer. Nothing says “I'm making this up” like refusing to provide citations.

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    • #3
      And here is the talk on You Tube by this supposed "apostle" Scott:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXR4XiA5eoc
      Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dianaiad View Post

        Please post the references for the above quotes.

        If they are quotes.

        If they are not, please justify your using them as if they are.
        What don't you understand about "Washington Post"? Your phony "apostle's" words are validated by the Youtube video of his talk. Do you object to that?

        By the way there is a LINK to the Washington Post article. Maybe you might show this to your Mormon friend who posts statements (like those about how Anglicans count membership), making statements about some article which he refused to either link to or verify its origin. When I tracked it down, I found out that the deceitfulness of that post was the obvious reason for giving no more information about its origin. Imagine that!

        This lack of citing references is notorious for at least two Mormons here, and I do report that by the way.
        Last edited by Catherine Aurelia; 09-10-18, 01:07 PM.
        Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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        • #5
          And here is the first video made by Mr. Karren about how his daughter was accused of being "promiscuous" by some General Authority.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A97odud60o

          I've posted this video before, and not one Mormon had the backbone to address this. God will, however, defend the little child, and expose just how evil certain Mormon leaders are. The Vatican is now being exposed and now SLC is next!
          Last edited by Catherine Aurelia; 09-10-18, 01:06 PM.
          Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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          • #6
            It gets worse folks. Here is recording of a woman having a chat with her "Stake President" about how her husband is cheating on her - and guess who is condemned?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpyiYiLwQWw

            She was ordered to shut up and stop talking about the incident - and because she didn't agree and wouldn't do that, she was accused of being an apostate. Too bad she didn't just get up, call this guy what he was, and walk the heck out.

            Note how this "stake president" doesn't use one word of either Christian or Mormon Scripture. I didn't even hear the name Jesus mentioned once. And this guy tells her she's not allowed to talk about the cheating by her husband to ANYONE, which by the way could have harmed her psychologically, as discussion helps people overcome such situations. As a therapist! Another example of how women are mistreated. I hope this woman left the cult and found solace in the arms of Jesus. Sometimes people have to go through such ABUSE before they do something about it!
            Last edited by Catherine Aurelia; 09-10-18, 01:27 PM.
            Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
              And here is the first video made by Mr. Karren about how his daughter was accused of being "promiscuous" by some General Authority.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A97odud60o

              I've posted this video before, and not one Mormon had the backbone to address this. God will, however, defend the little child, and expose just how evil certain Mormon leaders are. The Vatican is now being exposed and now SLC is next!
              Why won't any Mormon here man up and try to give a resonse to this man's claims? What if it was your child or grandchild accused of promiscuity by some General Authority? What if the cops treated your report as the police in Utah treated this gentleman's report (and it's recorded)? What's the matter, Mormons? Why is it that you people run away from anything that might require some real thought?
              Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

                [B]What don't you understand about "Washington Post"?
                Are those posts from some Washington Post author?

                Who said the things you claim were actually said?

                Where did you get them?
                Providing a proper reference/citation for a quote says nothing. Refusing to provide a proper reference/citation for a quote says everything: it’s a credibility killer. Nothing says “I'm making this up” like refusing to provide citations.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dianaiad View Post

                  Are those posts from some Washington Post author?

                  Who said the things you claim were actually said?

                  Where did you get them?
                  If you will review the posts above you will find links. Now, try to respond to content instead of casting doubt. Mormon women need to WAKE UP!
                  Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
                    Misogyny in Mormonism has shaped that cults attitude toward abuse. As we all know, stories of sexual abuse in "the only true church on the face of the whole earth, and it's 'living' too" (whatever the heck that means) has had more than its share of reported abuse. Frankly, for a rather small group, they are right up there with the Romanists, I believe, percentage wise. So, if you are an abused woman in the MOMORN CULT, you might want to think of fleeing. After all, YOU could be responsible for being abused.

                    1. Have you gained too much weight since being married, and now your husband abuses you or cheats on you?

                    2. Do you dress too provocatively, and have therefore invited rape, by a stranger, or even a church elder?

                    3. Do you work outside the home and neglect your wonderful husband, who must seek solace elsehwere?

                    4. If you are a little kid, did you perhaps act in a promiscuous way? (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnpbqdetDK4 )

                    Have your responsibility for being abused assessed by some old man who will report you is you have three piercings in your ear:
                    "At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed. Apostle Scott, 1992 General Conference." (a video link to this speech is below. Apparently that is not sufficient for some Mormons).

                    Let's see, you have a "priesthood leader" checking you out for a "degree of responsibility?" But, gosh, aren't those the

                    very ones who have been guilty of abuse?

                    WASHINGTON POST
                    By Julie Zauzmer
                    January 18, 2018

                    Michael Jensen preyed on children in the close-knit Mormon community around Martinsburg, W.Va. At least, that’s how law enforcement officials and at least half a dozen families see it now.

                    But for years, Jensen was a trusted member of the local church community, a young man whom Mormon leaders praised as a role model for youths — and recommended as a babysitter for one child after another, even as reports allegedly came back to some church volunteers that Jensen was sexually abusing boys and girls as young as two.

                    Five years ago, Jensen WENT T JAIL for abusing two children.

                    But a group of parents say now that it’s not just Jensen who should be held responsible; it’s the much larger Mormon hierarchy in West Virginia that they believe failed to respond appropriately to complaints about Jensen. The six families, who all say their children were abused by Jensen, are suing local Mormon leaders and the global church.

                    Like the Catholic Church, these parents say, the Mormon Church needs to be exposed for working to cloak the crimes of a community member against young children. For its part, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints argues — in a case that goes to trial in Martinsburg this week — that Mormons have a strong tradition of reporting all suspected child abuse to law enforcement.

                    Read the rest of the horrible case here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.15074a283514

                    And here's the One Million Dollar Question folks, what "degree of responsibility" did these kids have. SICKENING!
                    How can any woman, Mormon or Christian, not see the evil of Mormonism? How women are pawns, chattel, and that so many children have been victimized. How can this be? Because Joseph Smith is the Mormon deity, and serving his cult is their highest priority. Any woman who is considering joining this wicked group need to wake up. Get some counselling!
                    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

                      If you will review the posts above you will find links. Now, try to respond to content instead of casting doubt. Mormon women need to WAKE UP!
                      I reviewed them. I did not find those quotes.
                      Providing a proper reference/citation for a quote says nothing. Refusing to provide a proper reference/citation for a quote says everything: it’s a credibility killer. Nothing says “I'm making this up” like refusing to provide citations.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

                        Why won't any Mormon here man up and try to give a resonse to this man's claims? What if it was your child or grandchild accused of promiscuity by some General Authority? What if the cops treated your report as the police in Utah treated this gentleman's report (and it's recorded)? What's the matter, Mormons? Why is it that you people run away from anything that might require some real thought?
                        Thats a very powerful video. The general authority accusing 6 year old girls of promiscuity, to hide his own sick behavior. And the church covering it up.

                        Brings to mind a Bible verse about millstones.
                        ~ There is life after mormonism, and it's good! Just stay close to Christ.
                        ~ You can't follow Christ and false prophets at the same time.
                        ~ "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28

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                        • #13
                          If You are a LDS Abuse Victim, you might want to think of LEAVING the cult
                          If You are a member of the ANTI- LDS cult and have suffered abuse from its leaders or false teachings, you probably won't think of LEAVING the cult because the indoctrination has been so effective.
                          ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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                          • #14
                            Here's something about the subject fro Mormon Leaks:

                            https://mormonleaks.io/wiki/index.ph...rmer_Patriarch
                            Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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