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  • NRA-Jeff
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    Originally posted by Bonnie View Post

    Amazing, isn't it? Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

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    Correct--it's also what some extremist antis do to the Holy Spirit. IMO.

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  • Bonnie
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    Originally posted by NRA-Jeff View Post
    If OC succeeds in getting one of us to agree that many people will go to the CK without having been baptized, will we actually see an anti admit she was wrong?
    Can anyone NOT baptized into your church, either while alive, or vicariously, after death, get into the CK to be exalted to Godhood?

    It does appear that some can get into the CK:

    https://www.lds.org/topics/kingdoms-of-glory?lang=eng

    All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God;

    “Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom;

    "For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts” (D&C 137:7–9).

    Commenting on this revelation, the Prophet Joseph said, “I also beheld that all children who die before they arrive at the years of accountability are saved in the celestial kingdom of heaven” (D&C 137:10).
    However, I cannot tell from this if vicarious baptism is required to get into the CK. But I did find this:

    http://mit.irr.org/baptism-salvation...estial-kingdom

    It says baptism is necessary ONLY to get into the CK, Not into the other 2 kingdoms. So, is that correct?
    Last edited by Mod10; 10-05-18, 04:25 PM. Reason: alert: post corrected at poster's request

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  • Bonnie
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    Originally posted by Magdalena View Post

    What she said was correct. Thats the reason you're trying to baptise everyone who has ever lived and confirm them members of the mormon church, and then seal them to at least one spouse.
    Amazing, isn't it? Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

    One question--can Mormons be baptized vicariously for someone who is alive but not a Mormon? Or is it just for the dead? I think it is just for the dead, but I want to make sure.

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  • Bonnie
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    Originally posted by oceancoast View Post
    False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.
    Everything I wrote is true. And I think you know it.

    So, which of the things I wrote about is incorrect?

    1. Must be a baptised and tithe-paying member of the LDS church in order to be allowed into a Mormon temple, in order to do the Mormon ordinaces therein that will supposedly lead to exaltation.

    2. One must be married and have the marriage sealed in a temple, in order to be "exalted" to "godhood" after death.

    3.. After doing the Temple ordinaces, one's ability to keep getting into those temples rests on one's "worthiness"--such as being a full tithe payer, observing the WoW, wearing the special undergarmemts, doing one's callings regularly, etc--as determined by the bishop, who then signs a temple recommend card, so the Mormon can continue to get into the temples in order to carry out the ordinances therein for others, vicariously.

    All so men can be exalted to Godhood after death, create worlds, and have spirit children with one's exalted, high priestess wife, for eternity.

    Which of these did I get wrong?

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  • NRA-Jeff
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    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
    Oh, really, so entrance into the CK does not require baptism......either when you are alive or dead? I don't believe you. Get one more Mormon here to agree with that.
    If OC succeeds in getting one of us to agree that many people will go to the CK without having been baptized, will we actually see an anti admit she was wrong?

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  • NRA-Jeff
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    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
    Of course there are some Mormon men here who are quite arrogant...]
    List their names.

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    Originally posted by oceancoast View Post
    False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.
    Oh, really, so entrance into the CK does not require baptism......either when you are alive or dead? I don't believe you. Get one more Mormon here to agree with that.

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  • Magdalena
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    Originally posted by oceancoast View Post
    False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.
    What she said was correct. Thats the reason youre trying to baptise everyone who has ever lived and confirm them members of the mormon church, and then seal them to at least one spouse.

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  • oceancoast
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    Originally posted by Bonnie View Post

    But in order to be exalted to the CK, and godhood, one MUST be a baptized member of your church--correct? And THEN one must be married and have that marriage sealed in one of your temples, correct? And in order even to get INTO one of those temples, one MUST be "worthy"--like tithing yearly to your church, observing the WoW, going through the endowmemt....right? In order for the men to become deities, like heavenly father, and create worlds, and have spirit babies by their exalted priestess wives--right?
    False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.

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    Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
    She did NOT direct what she wrote to any one poster, but made it about what we see expounded upon here, sometimes. But take that up with her, not me.
    EDIT PER MOD
    Bonnie, thank you for attempting to run interference on this one. You are a peacemaker and I appreciate it, EDIT PER MOD

    I mean, really.

    You KNOW what would have happened to me had I written in a similar vein....you know, "Not to a Christian..." or "not to an evangelical..." ???

    I would have been reported three times over and the infraction would have been immediate, strongly worded, and completely deserved, IMO.

    And no, I did not report that post because I, at the time, could not have done so according to the rules. I was rather hoping that someone else would have done so. (shrug)

    Ah, well.
    Last edited by 4Him; 10-04-18, 09:18 PM.

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  • Bonnie
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    Originally posted by dianaiad

    EDIT.
    She did NOT direct what she wrote to any one poster, but made it about what we see expounded upon here, sometimes. But take that up with her, not me.
    Last edited by 4Him; 10-04-18, 09:19 PM.

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  • Bonnie
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    Originally posted by dianaiad View Post

    I guess that's because Mormons actually speak and write coherently in their first (and quite often, second) languages.
    You do so, but not all on here DO. Which is why I sometimes have to ask them to please rephrase what they wrote, or explain what they mean. It happens. And we all type too quickly sometimes, and may forget a letter here or there. Or have auto-corrects that think they know better than we do what we are trying to say.

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    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

    Not to a Mormon.
    I guess that's because Mormons actually speak and write coherently in their first (and quite often, second) languages.

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  • Bonnie
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    I found the YouTube with Shawn and that supposed Melchizedek priest

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JKoOJ9tq2IA


    Shawn's answer is perfect--he tells the guy he stole Jesus's high priesthood, because Jesus is our ONLY High Priest!


    And the garbage this "priest" says about Josep Smith's face shining brighter than the noonday sun! Talk about being enslaved and endoctrinated by Mormonism! So much so, he wishes the DANITES would still exist!
    Last edited by Bonnie; 10-04-18, 01:32 PM.

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  • Bonnie
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    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

    Oh, I remember that, and then Shawn said, "well, what's supposed to happen now? I'm not struck dead."
    I think Shawn also asked if he was supposed to be impressed by the priesthood holder's rebuke.

    If a Mormon "priesthood" holder ever rebuked me in person for teaching the truth about Jesus Christ, I would rebuke HIM in the name of Jesus Christ, for attempting to stifle the truth.

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