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  • #16
    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

    Not to a Mormon.
    I guess that's because Mormons actually speak and write coherently in their first (and quite often, second) languages.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by dianaiad View Post

      I guess that's because Mormons actually speak and write coherently in their first (and quite often, second) languages.
      You do so, but not all on here DO. Which is why I sometimes have to ask them to please rephrase what they wrote, or explain what they mean. It happens. And we all type too quickly sometimes, and may forget a letter here or there. Or have auto-corrects that think they know better than we do what we are trying to say.
      "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
      "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
      "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
      "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
      "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dianaiad

        EDIT.
        She did NOT direct what she wrote to any one poster, but made it about what we see expounded upon here, sometimes. But take that up with her, not me.
        Last edited by 4Him; 10-04-18, 09:19 PM.
        "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
        "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
        "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
        "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
        "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
          She did NOT direct what she wrote to any one poster, but made it about what we see expounded upon here, sometimes. But take that up with her, not me.
          EDIT PER MOD
          Bonnie, thank you for attempting to run interference on this one. You are a peacemaker and I appreciate it, EDIT PER MOD

          I mean, really.

          You KNOW what would have happened to me had I written in a similar vein....you know, "Not to a Christian..." or "not to an evangelical..." ???

          I would have been reported three times over and the infraction would have been immediate, strongly worded, and completely deserved, IMO.

          And no, I did not report that post because I, at the time, could not have done so according to the rules. I was rather hoping that someone else would have done so. (shrug)

          Ah, well.
          Last edited by 4Him; 10-04-18, 09:18 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bonnie View Post

            But in order to be exalted to the CK, and godhood, one MUST be a baptized member of your church--correct? And THEN one must be married and have that marriage sealed in one of your temples, correct? And in order even to get INTO one of those temples, one MUST be "worthy"--like tithing yearly to your church, observing the WoW, going through the endowmemt....right? In order for the men to become deities, like heavenly father, and create worlds, and have spirit babies by their exalted priestess wives--right?
            False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.

            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” -- George Carlin

            We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideals of Christianity, our movement is Christian. - Adolf Hitler

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            • #21
              Originally posted by oceancoast View Post
              False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.
              What she said was correct. Thats the reason youre trying to baptise everyone who has ever lived and confirm them members of the mormon church, and then seal them to at least one spouse.
              ~ There is life after mormonism, and it's good! Just stay close to Christ.
              ~ You can't follow Christ and false prophets at the same time.
              ~ "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28

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              • #22
                Originally posted by oceancoast View Post
                False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.
                Oh, really, so entrance into the CK does not require baptism......either when you are alive or dead? I don't believe you. Get one more Mormon here to agree with that.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
                  Of course there are some Mormon men here who are quite arrogant...]
                  List their names.
                  ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
                    Oh, really, so entrance into the CK does not require baptism......either when you are alive or dead? I don't believe you. Get one more Mormon here to agree with that.
                    If OC succeeds in getting one of us to agree that many people will go to the CK without having been baptized, will we actually see an anti admit she was wrong?
                    ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by oceancoast View Post
                      False.. you would think that you have been on this site long enough to actually have learned something about LDS beliefs.. but it seems no amount of correction by LDS will ever suffice to the point that you will properly represent what LDS believe.
                      Everything I wrote is true. And I think you know it.

                      So, which of the things I wrote about is incorrect?

                      1. Must be a baptised and tithe-paying member of the LDS church in order to be allowed into a Mormon temple, in order to do the Mormon ordinaces therein that will supposedly lead to exaltation.

                      2. One must be married and have the marriage sealed in a temple, in order to be "exalted" to "godhood" after death.

                      3.. After doing the Temple ordinaces, one's ability to keep getting into those temples rests on one's "worthiness"--such as being a full tithe payer, observing the WoW, wearing the special undergarmemts, doing one's callings regularly, etc--as determined by the bishop, who then signs a temple recommend card, so the Mormon can continue to get into the temples in order to carry out the ordinances therein for others, vicariously.

                      All so men can be exalted to Godhood after death, create worlds, and have spirit children with one's exalted, high priestess wife, for eternity.

                      Which of these did I get wrong?
                      "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                      "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                      "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                      "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                      "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Magdalena View Post

                        What she said was correct. Thats the reason you're trying to baptise everyone who has ever lived and confirm them members of the mormon church, and then seal them to at least one spouse.
                        Amazing, isn't it? Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

                        One question--can Mormons be baptized vicariously for someone who is alive but not a Mormon? Or is it just for the dead? I think it is just for the dead, but I want to make sure.
                        "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                        "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                        "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                        "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                        "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by NRA-Jeff View Post
                          If OC succeeds in getting one of us to agree that many people will go to the CK without having been baptized, will we actually see an anti admit she was wrong?
                          Can anyone NOT baptized into your church, either while alive, or vicariously, after death, get into the CK to be exalted to Godhood?

                          It does appear that some can get into the CK:

                          https://www.lds.org/topics/kingdoms-of-glory?lang=eng

                          All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God;

                          “Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom;

                          "For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts” (D&C 137:7–9).

                          Commenting on this revelation, the Prophet Joseph said, “I also beheld that all children who die before they arrive at the years of accountability are saved in the celestial kingdom of heaven” (D&C 137:10).
                          However, I cannot tell from this if vicarious baptism is required to get into the CK. But I did find this:

                          http://mit.irr.org/baptism-salvation...estial-kingdom

                          It says baptism is necessary ONLY to get into the CK, Not into the other 2 kingdoms. So, is that correct?
                          Last edited by Mod10; 10-05-18, 04:25 PM. Reason: alert: post corrected at poster's request
                          "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                          "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                          "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                          "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                          "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bonnie View Post

                            Amazing, isn't it? Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

                            .
                            Correct--it's also what some extremist antis do to the Holy Spirit. IMO.
                            ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
                              Can anyone NOT baptized into your church, either while alive, or vicariously, after death, get into.....
                              What does the Book of Mormon teach on the subject?
                              ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Magdalena View Post

                                What she said was correct. Thats the reason youre trying to baptise everyone who has ever lived and confirm them members of the mormon church, and then seal them to at least one spouse.
                                you clearly are mistaken.. no wonder you left the church.
                                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” -- George Carlin

                                We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideals of Christianity, our movement is Christian. - Adolf Hitler

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