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  • The false Icon of Mormonism: A Good Joseph Smith

    Mormon love and reverence for Joseph Smith has led to heretical beliefs, such as, Joseph's blood was needed to restore the New Covenant. His financial and sexual escapades are, frankly, covered up, or "revised" by the "expert" apologists to reflect anything but reality. Joseph Smith was not a good man, but a man driven by the love of money, who dishonored his wedding vows over and over again (claiming his god told him to), and a liar who told tall stories that credulous LDS TBMs accept as historic truth with Zero evidence - for instance the "first vision" account.

    When confronted with historical facts, many Mormons come to the conclusion that they've been lied to - either as converts or as cradle-born Mormons. Some leave the cult. Others stay in it because they are afraid their spouse won't accept the truth and will divorce them. Others don't care if Mormonism is true or not, they are "comfortable" in the organization which may be their income source. But the facts remain, and the Joseph Smith of official Mormonism is a false, deceptive icon:

    One of the most disgusting events in Joseph Smith's life was his emotional abandonment of his legal wife, Emma (even to the point of threatening her with damnation should she not agree to Smith's practice of spiritual wifery). While I believe that Emma was to a great degree complicit in many of Smith's fraudulent claims and practices, I don't believe she knew the extent to which her husband had descended into sexual depravity:


    "On January 18, 1827 Joseph Smith married Emma Hale. On January 17, 1842 (15 years later) Joseph Smith married Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner while she was about 6 months pregnant with her third child. Emma was also 7 months pregnant at the time. The Lightner wedding took place in the upper room of the Red Brick Store, with Brigham Young officiating. At that time, Joseph counseled Mary to stay with her husband and children in Farmington, IL. Later that night Joseph and Willard Richards went to Agnes Coolbirth Smith’s home (wife of Smith’s deceased brother) for dinner. Joseph had secretly married Agnes about 5 days earlier. Willard fell asleep after dinner while Smith spent time with Agnes. Joseph later awoke Willard and they returned to the Smith home. On January 18th, 1843 there was a grand celebration of their 16th wedding anniversary at the Smith home.

    In summary….Smith married a pregnant woman (who was already married) on the eve of his wedding anniversary and probably engaged in sexual relations with his dead brother’s wife instead of staying home with his own wife – which he so very often did not. (In Sacred Loneliness, Todd Compton / Ensign, My Great-Great Grandmother Emma Hale Smith, Aug 1992)

    Not to be outdone by his January escapades with Mary and Agnes, Joseph married Sylvia Porter Sessions on Feb 8, 1842, just two days after his wife gave birth to their stillborn son. The following month Joseph married Sylvia’s mother, Patty Sessions, with the daughter Sylvia present.

    In another episode, Smith threatened Sarah Pratt with ruin when she rebuffed his advances. She promptly told her husband Orson, who confronted Joseph, only to have him deny the encounter. (Minutes of Quorum of 12, Jan 20, 1843)"

    Now folks, this is not speculation but is documented fact. Ask yourself how low any man can go in philandering and unfaithfulness - even to the point of blaming his made-up "god" for his moral failures (we note that practice often in Mormondom - displacing blame on to others to justify one's own sinfulness). The Mormon cult gives us a different take of Smith's relationship with his wife. They even have a statue in Temple Square, Salt Lake City, Cult Headquarters, seemingly portraying how idyllic Joseph's and Emma's relationship was. In reality, this is the statue that should be there (Smith took about 43 wives and possibly more):

    https://www.google.com/search?q=temp...ykPvTYeMsi5QM:

    Imagine women - your husband out secretly marrying another woman just two days after you gave birth to a dead child. Some support system this monster was!

    source in part: http://followtheprophets.com/joseph-smith/
    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

  • #2
    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
    Mormon love and reverence for Joseph Smith has led to heretical beliefs, such as, Joseph's blood was needed to restore the New Covenant. His financial and sexual escapades are, frankly, covered up, or "revised" by the "expert" apologists to reflect anything but reality. Joseph Smith was not a good man, but a man driven by the love of money, who dishonored his wedding vows over and over again (claiming his god told him to), and a liar who told tall stories that credulous LDS TBMs accept as historic truth with Zero evidence - for instance the "first vision" account.

    When confronted with historical facts, many Mormons come to the conclusion that they've been lied to - either as converts or as cradle-born Mormons. Some leave the cult. Others stay in it because they are afraid their spouse won't accept the truth and will divorce them. Others don't care if Mormonism is true or not, they are "comfortable" in the organization which may be their income source. But the facts remain, and the Joseph Smith of official Mormonism is a false, deceptive icon:

    One of the most disgusting events in Joseph Smith's life was his emotional abandonment of his legal wife, Emma (even to the point of threatening her with damnation should she not agree to Smith's practice of spiritual wifery). While I believe that Emma was to a great degree complicit in many of Smith's fraudulent claims and practices, I don't believe she knew the extent to which her husband had descended into sexual depravity:


    "On January 18, 1827 Joseph Smith married Emma Hale. On January 17, 1842 (15 years later) Joseph Smith married Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner while she was about 6 months pregnant with her third child. Emma was also 7 months pregnant at the time. The Lightner wedding took place in the upper room of the Red Brick Store, with Brigham Young officiating. At that time, Joseph counseled Mary to stay with her husband and children in Farmington, IL. Later that night Joseph and Willard Richards went to Agnes Coolbirth Smith’s home (wife of Smith’s deceased brother) for dinner. Joseph had secretly married Agnes about 5 days earlier. Willard fell asleep after dinner while Smith spent time with Agnes. Joseph later awoke Willard and they returned to the Smith home. On January 18th, 1843 there was a grand celebration of their 16th wedding anniversary at the Smith home.

    In summary….Smith married a pregnant woman (who was already married) on the eve of his wedding anniversary and probably engaged in sexual relations with his dead brother’s wife instead of staying home with his own wife – which he so very often did not. (In Sacred Loneliness, Todd Compton / Ensign, My Great-Great Grandmother Emma Hale Smith, Aug 1992)

    Not to be outdone by his January escapades with Mary and Agnes, Joseph married Sylvia Porter Sessions on Feb 8, 1842, just two days after his wife gave birth to their stillborn son. The following month Joseph married Sylvia’s mother, Patty Sessions, with the daughter Sylvia present.

    In another episode, Smith threatened Sarah Pratt with ruin when she rebuffed his advances. She promptly told her husband Orson, who confronted Joseph, only to have him deny the encounter. (Minutes of Quorum of 12, Jan 20, 1843)"

    Now folks, this is not speculation but is documented fact. Ask yourself how low any man can go in philandering and unfaithfulness - even to the point of blaming his made-up "god" for his moral failures (we note that practice often in Mormondom - displacing blame on to others to justify one's own sinfulness). The Mormon cult gives us a different take of Smith's relationship with his wife. They even have a statue in Temple Square, Salt Lake City, Cult Headquarters, seemingly portraying how idyllic Joseph's and Emma's relationship was. In reality, this is the statue that should be there (Smith took about 43 wives and possibly more):

    https://www.google.com/search?q=temp...ykPvTYeMsi5QM:

    Imagine women - your husband out secretly marrying another woman just two days after you gave birth to a dead child. Some support system this monster was!

    source in part: http://followtheprophets.com/joseph-smith/
    What's the matter, Mormons, you can't defend Smith? And why should you, he was evil, but then God predicted some would turn evil to look like good.
    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

      What's the matter, Mormons, you can't defend Smith? And why should you, he was evil, but then God predicted some would turn evil to look like good.
      Is it necessary to defend him? Why should we?

      There were people making scurrilous accusations against him long before you or I were born. Those accusations do no more harm now than they ever have, less now that he is dead and beyond their reach (you can only kill a man once). Those who desire to see the Church in a negative light will find a way to believe the charges against its founder. Those who find the gospel in the Church and see the hand of God directing it will find ways to disbelieve those charges.

      "The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done."

      There is nothing that y’all can do to frustrate the designs of God. The Church needs no defense, the gospel is true whether or not I’m around to proclaim it, and the leaders of the Church (past and present) are beyond y’alls reach and beyond y’alls ability to harm.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JustaLurker View Post

        Is it necessary to defend him? Why should we?

        There were people making scurrilous accusations against him long before you or I were born. Those accusations do no more harm now than they ever have, less now that he is dead and beyond their reach (you can only kill a man once). Those who desire to see the Church in a negative light will find a way to believe the charges against its founder. Those who find the gospel in the Church and see the hand of God directing it will find ways to disbelieve those charges.

        "The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done."

        There is nothing that y’all can do to frustrate the designs of God. The Church needs no defense, the gospel is true whether or not I’m around to proclaim it, and the leaders of the Church (past and present) are beyond y’alls reach and beyond y’alls ability to harm.
        Your cult is entering its death throes, counting now on third-worlders who don't know the truth YET about Smith. In this country, many who have learned about the "real" Smith have aleady packed it in. Outside of this countrym those victims who have been deceived are learning, trust me. They are being informed. Smith was a scoundrel, and if I was you, I wouldn't try to defend such an evil man either.
        Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

          Your cult is entering its death throes, counting now on third-worlders who don't know the truth YET about Smith. In this country, many who have learned about the "real" Smith have aleady packed it in. Outside of this countrym those victims who have been deceived are learning, trust me. They are being informed. Smith was a scoundrel, and if I was you, I wouldn't try to defend such an evil man either.
          You’ve been making that claim for about 20 years now. In all that time there hasn’t been a single year where the Church hasn’t grown, where the number of congregations hasn’t increased, where the number of temples hasn’t increased.

          The health and growth of the organization does NOT prove that it is the true Church of God on the earth. It DOES prove that your declaration of the Church being in it’s death throes is false (and silly).

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