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  • Christianity Wins by Default!

    After reviewing the very childish or hostile responses that Mormons post here in response to the inquiries of Christians regarding the Mormon cult's teachings, it would seem Christianity simply wins by default.

    For instance: no intelligent response to the fact that there is no archaeological evidence of Mormonism.

    For instance: No response to evidence that Sidney Rigdon visited Joseph Smith before 1830.

    For instance: No response as to why Sidney Rigdon predicted the Book of Mormon before he ever read it.

    For instance: No response as to why Joseph Smith married the wives of other men when it is forbidden by D&C 132 (they belong to another)

    For instance: Why Mormon priests would slaughter 120 unarmed men, women and children at Mountain Meadows.

    For instance: Why there is no evidence for a "universal apostasy."

    For instance: Why dead men supposedly ordained Joe and Ollie, with no witnesses.

    For instance: Why there is no evidence for anything called "Reformed Egyptian."

    For instance: Why Joseph Smith "married" (slept with) Fanny Alger before he had a "revelation" that he was to practice polygamy.

    For instance: Why Joseph Smith told Mormons it was okay to steal from Gentiles.

    For instance: Why the Mormons foolishly believe there were pre-Colombian horses in Nephite times.

    For instance: Why the Book of Mormon copies errors from the Bible.

    For instance: Why Mormons here defend Kingston Clan polygamy and incestuous "mariage."

    For instance: Why certain gullible Mormons try to palm off Mayan Indians as Nephites.

    I can go on, but why bother?? We'll get no intelligent answers to anything anyway. I just want real "lurkers" to know that Mormons have no answers.



    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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    ... the Book of Mormon copies errors from the Bible.


    If you believe the Bible is erroneous, then maybe you have bigger issues to resolve than your dislike for LDS people.
    ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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      Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
      After reviewing the very childish or hostile responses that Mormons post here in response to the inquiries of Christians regarding the Mormon cult's teachings, it would seem Christianity simply wins by default.

      1. For instance: no intelligent response to the fact that there is no archaeological evidence of Mormonism.

      2. For instance: No response to evidence that Sidney Rigdon visited Joseph Smith before 1830.

      3. For instance: No response as to why Sidney Rigdon predicted the Book of Mormon before he ever read it.

      4. For instance: No response as to why Joseph Smith married the wives of other men when it is forbidden by D&C 132 (they belong to another)

      5. For instance: Why Mormon priests would slaughter 120 unarmed men, women and children at Mountain Meadows.

      6. For instance: Why there is no evidence for a "universal apostasy."

      7. For instance: Why dead men supposedly ordained [Joseph] and [Olliver], with no witnesses.

      8. For instance: Why there is no evidence for anything called "Reformed Egyptian."

      9. For instance: Why Joseph Smith "married" (slept with) Fanny Alger before he had a "revelation" that he was to practice polygamy.

      10. For instance: Why Joseph Smith told Mormons it was okay to steal from Gentiles.

      11. For instance: Why the Mormons foolishly believe there were pre-Colombian horses in Nephite times.

      12. For instance: Why the Book of Mormon copies errors from the Bible.

      13. For instance: Why Mormons here defend Kingston Clan polygamy and incestuous "mariage."

      14. For instance: Why certain gullible Mormons try to palm off Mayan Indians as Nephites.

      I can go on, but why bother?? We'll get no intelligent answers to anything anyway. I just want real "lurkers" to know that Mormons have no answers.
      I numbered the points above for ease in discussion.

      1. We have a great deal of evidence and have discussed it at length here on the boards. NHM. Hebraisms. Countless details in the Book of Mormon that accurately represent mesoamerica of that time period but that were I know and unknowable in 1830.

      2. No evidence has ever been presented that Rigdon and Smith met prior to 1830. Only conjecture presented as evidence.

      3. Many predictions were made by many people of the Book of Mormon before it was produced, including predictions in the Bible.

      4. Joseph was Sealed to the wives of other men. Their marriages were not intruded upon nor interrupted.

      5. John D Lee and those with him were bad men. They were also Mormons and held the priesthood. That didn’t stop them from being bad men. When he was caught and convicted Lee was executed for his crimes. The same is true of Butch Cassidy and Mark Hoffman.

      6. There is ample evidence of apostasy as attested to by more than one Protestant clergyman who opined for a restoration of the true gospel.

      7. There were two witnesses, Joseph and Oliver, just as there were for most of the things that occurred in the Bible. What witnesses do we have for the events in the garden of Gethsemane? What witnesses do we have to the death of Judas? For the events on the Mount of Transfiguration?

      8. We have provided ample proof of the existance of many forms of reformed Egyptian, texts in various other languages (including Semitic) written in altered forms of Egyptian demonic script.

      9. This one I bolded because I can’t simply dismiss it like the others. We don’t know if or exactly when Joseph and Fanny were married. We don’t know if or when they were intimate.

      10. Joseph never told anyone it was okay to steal. Provide us a quote from a reputable source.

      11. We believe there were pre-Columbia’s horses because they a[pear in the Book of Mormon. Now we begin to have archaeological support for that belief. Score another point for the Book of Mormon.

      12. The Book of Mormon has 433 verses from the book of Isaiah that are also found within the Bible. 230 of those verses differ from the KJV. Where they differ, the Book of Mormon is the more correct in that it is found to match the Masoretic text which wasn’t available at the time the Book of Mormon was produced.

      13. No Mormon on this forum claimed even to have heard of the Kingston clan. No Mormon on this forum has offered any defense of the Kingston clan.

      14. No Mormon on this forum has claimed that Mayans are Nephites or that Nephites are Mayan. The only claim that was made was that there was no way to differentiate between them if they shared territory during the same time period.

      Yes, you could go on but why bother. Every point you make is a specious false equivalency or a misrepresentation of fact.

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