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Joseph Smith was a Witch, and if you follow him, you are involved in Witchcraft

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  • Joseph Smith was a Witch, and if you follow him, you are involved in Witchcraft

    This is one of the best sites for exposing Joseph Smith as a practicing witch, and Mormonism as the fruit of witchcraft. It is written by a former Mormon:

    https://lifestylesofthetraditionalwi...-in-mormonism/

    This is an article I wrote regarding Joseph Smith's witchcraft:


    The Ritual Occult Magic of the Joseph Smith Family - Witchcraft!
    Mormons are always telling us that the witchcraft and ritual magic that the Joseph Smith, Sr., family indulged in was common to most Americans in the nineteenth century. Don't know about others, but my ancestors never engaged in any occult rituals. The Smith family was deeply involved in the occult, to the point where their practices most likely did conjure up demons from the Satanic realm of darkness. Apparently, Joe, Jr., was a special host for these enti ties, and engaged in many magic/occult practices such as astrology, dowsing, crystal gazing, and finally telling ritual "lies" (that which the Bible calls "lying wonders" in 2 Thess. 2:8) which form the foundation of Mormonism. Lucy Mack Smith admitted that the family collectively engaged in occult activities in her book:

    "Let not the reader suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopt our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrac [,] drawing Magic circles or sooth saying [sic] to the neglect of all kinds of buisness [.W]e never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remmember [sic] the service of & the welfare of our souls."

    What are magic circles? Here is some information:


    The Magic Circle.
    A Consecrated Circle in which Great feats of Magical Operations are performed



    It is a Sacred space set aside for Ceremonies and Rituals of High Magic. I am not going to go into major detail here. I am going to give you just the basics for your curiosity.
    Within the circle one can transcend the physical world and take the mind to deeper and higher levels of consciousness. It acts as a protection barrier from all Evil and unwanted En***ies. From within this Magical Circle the Magician can Invoke and or conjure up any Demon or Angelic being that is desired for their bidding. Now take note that the En***ies are conjured to appear outside of the circle and into the Triangle of the Solomon (Triangle of the Art). The Magic Circle is for the Magician to stand in along with those who might wish to witness a Magical operation as such. The Circle must always be cleansed and Consecrated to make it a Sacred Protection barrier.


    Here is the link, and pictures of these magic circles the Smiths were so fond of: http://www.spellsandmagic.com/Magic_Circle.html

    This occult involvement no doubt led directly to the fact that the realm of darkness was able to use Joe Smith as a tool - a tool to attack the Church founded by the Lord Jesus Christ. A tool to produce false revelations. A tool who thought he had done a greater work than Jesus! A tool to sexually stalk young teenage girls and married women, and call it holy! This is what involvement with the occult does to those who involve themselves in it.

    Mormonism is an occult religion, and this is why Christians must be equipped to deal with it by the power of the Holy Spirit: "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Eph. 6:12.

    Mormonism is the fruit of occult contact in the 19th century - and has grown exponentially in a world which has turned its back on the True and Living God, and willingly embraced the lures of the New Age, Eastern Mysticism, and idolatry!"

    Yes folks, Joseph Smith was a witch!
    Last edited by Catherine Aurelia; 11-30-18, 09:31 AM.
    Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

  • #2
    Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
    Lucy Mack Smith admitted that the family collectively engaged in occult activities in her book:
    Actually, she denied it in her book:

    "Let NOT the reader suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopt our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrac [,] drawing Magic circles or sooth saying [sic] to the neglect of all kinds of buisness [.W]e never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remmember [sic] the service of & the welfare of our souls."

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    • #3
      Craig claims, "actually she denied it in her book, " claiming Lucy denied invovlement in the occult and especially palm reading. This is what he quotes to prove his statement:

      "Let NOT the reader suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopt our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrac [,] drawing Magic circles or sooth saying [sic] to the neglect of all kinds of buisness [.W]e never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remmember [sic] the service of & the welfare of our souls."[/QUOTE]


      She also said that the Smith family was "respected," when we all know that her husband was the town drunk and lazy, Also, the above quote from Lucy confirms the occult practice of palmistry.

      Michael Quinn, historian: "

      "Friendly sources corroborate hostile non-Mormon accounts. As historian Richard L. Bushman has written: ‘There had always been evidence of it ("money-digging in the Smith family") in the hostile affidavits from the Smith’s neighbors, evidence which Mormons dismissed as hopelessly biased. But when I got into the sources, I found evidence from friendly contemporaries as well, Martin Harris, Joseph Knight, Oliver Cowdery, and Lucy Mack Smith. All of these witnesses persuaded me treasure-seeking and vernacular magic were part of the Smith family tradition, and that the hostile witnesses, including the 1826 trial record, had to be taken seriously.’ BYU historian Marvin S. Hill has likewise observed: ‘Now, most historians, Mormon or not, who work with the sources, accept as fact Joseph Smith’s career as village magician.’" (Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, 2nd ed. 1998, p.59)"

      and

      "When Joseph Smith recalled his money-digging activities for his official history, he wrote only about searching for a lost mine in 1825 for Josiah Stowell. But contemporary records suggest that this had been one of the Smith family occupations in the Palmyra/Manchester area since the early 1820s. For example, Joshua Stafford of Manchester recalled that he ‘became acquainted with the family of Joseph Smith, Sen. about the year 1819 or 20. They then were laboring people, in low circumstances. A short time after this, they commenced digging for hidden treasures,…and told marvellous stories about ghosts, hob-goblins, caverns, and various other mysterious matters.’ Willard Chase, another friend of the family, similarly recalled, ‘I became acquainted with the Smith family…in the year 1820. At that time they were engaged in the money digging business.’" (Inventing Mormonism, Marquardt and Walters, p.64)"

      and, Lucy, in her book, admits the family participated in soothsaying, telling the future:

      Soothsaying IS Palmistry and other forms of divination:


      "Let not the reader suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopt our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrac [,] drawing Magic circles or sooth saying [sic] to the neglect of all kinds of buisness [.W]e never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remmember [sic] the service of & the welfare of our souls."

      What she's saying here is that the family did practice the occult, but not to the neglect of their business or work. She refers to these as "important interests. " You, Craig, really need to study what actually is being said, not what Mormons wish was said.

      Also
      Lucy Mack Smith

      Lucy taught her children. She could not tell the difference between the Spirit of God and the powers of darkness. She ignored or was ignorant of God’s total rebuke of witchcraft and divination.

      “Yet her husbands ingrained aversion to evangelical religion and the churches confirmed her own skepticism and alienation. She hovered on the edge of respectable religion, attracted and repelled at the same time.” Richard Bushman, Joseph Smith and the Beginnings of Mormonism, pg. 39

      “Lucy Mack Smith practiced “palmistry, card-divination, and tea leaf reading as late as 1880’s.” -Quinn, Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, pg. 294-295
      “For people of a magical frame of mind, Moroni sounded like one of the spirits who stood guard over treasure in the tales of treasure seeking.85 The similarities may even have made the extraordinary story more credible in the Smith family. Lucy recognized the crossover in prefacing her narrative of the plates with the caution against thinking

      “That we stopt our labors and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrae drawing Magic circles or soothsaying to the neglect of all kinds of business we never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remember the service of & welfare of our souls.”

      Lucy’s point was that the Smith’s were not lazy-they had not stopped their labor to practice magic- but she showed her knowledge of formulas and rituals and associated them with “the welfare of their souls. Magic and religion melded in the Smith family culture.”- Richard Bushman, Joseph Smith Rough Stone Rolling, pg.51 (source: http://www.sharpenedsword.com/page/page/3925192.htm 0

      Cowdery, Joe's cousin, who edited the Book of Mormon, came from a family that used diving rods and was probably involved in this cult:
      ... a religious group began using forked divining rods for revelatory purposes in Vermont about 1800. This was not far from the Smiths, or from William Cowdery (father of future Book of Mormon scribe Oliver Cowdery). At Middletown, Vermont, Nathaniel Wood was instructing his followers that "they were descendants of the ancient Jews, and lawful inheritors of the whole country." They believed in alchemy and used a "cleft stick, or rod," to discover "the hidden treasures of the earth" and to receive instructions by"a nod of assent � from the rods," (emphasis in original) including a revelation "that they must build a temple"...

      The Wood group's civil prominence, fervor, and open conflict with non-believers led to the so-called "Wood Scrape," a sensational event known far beyond the Cowdery family's residence six miles away. The Wood group's "Fraternity of Rodsmen" boldly prophesied they would inherit that region of the country in an apocalyptic event on 14 January 1802.... This was happening six miles from the Cowderys' home....

      From 1800 to 1802, Nathaniel Wood's "use of the rod was mostly as a medium of revelation"... A connection between William Cowdery and the Wood Scrape would help to explain why his son Oliver had a rod through which he received revelations.... (Quinn, Early Mormonism and the Magic World View)
      It would be far better if Mormons researched issues than always pretending to have the answers. They don't.
      Last edited by Catherine Aurelia; 11-30-18, 12:37 PM.
      Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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        Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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        • #5
          .. we all know that her husband was the town drunk and lazy,...

          1. We don't all know that (I for one certainly don't know it) so your assertion is false.
          2. We CAN'T know an assertion is true--- if it is actually false.
          3. CALL FOR REFERENCES -- C.F.R. -- so we can see how reliable the sources that you relied on for that accusation actually are.
          ...whenever a person's religious conversation dwells... on the faults of other people's religions, he is in a bad condition-C.S. Lewis

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
            Joseph Smith was a Witch, and if you follow him, you are involved in Witchcraft
            One word..... straw-man.... chuckle!
            A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards. Proverbs

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
              Craig claims, "actually she denied it in her book, " claiming Lucy denied invovlement in the occult and especially palm reading. This is what he quotes to prove his statement:

              "Let NOT the reader suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopt our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrac [,] drawing Magic circles or sooth saying [sic] to the neglect of all kinds of buisness [.W]e never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remmember [sic] the service of & the welfare of our souls."


              She also said that the Smith family was "respected," when we all know that her husband was the town drunk and lazy, Also, the above quote from Lucy confirms the occult practice of palmistry.

              Michael Quinn, historian: "

              "Friendly sources corroborate hostile non-Mormon accounts. As historian Richard L. Bushman has written: ‘There had always been evidence of it ("money-digging in the Smith family") in the hostile affidavits from the Smith’s neighbors, evidence which Mormons dismissed as hopelessly biased. But when I got into the sources, I found evidence from friendly contemporaries as well, Martin Harris, Joseph Knight, Oliver Cowdery, and Lucy Mack Smith. All of these witnesses persuaded me treasure-seeking and vernacular magic were part of the Smith family tradition, and that the hostile witnesses, including the 1826 trial record, had to be taken seriously.’ BYU historian Marvin S. Hill has likewise observed: ‘Now, most historians, Mormon or not, who work with the sources, accept as fact Joseph Smith’s career as village magician.’" (Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, 2nd ed. 1998, p.59)"

              and

              "When Joseph Smith recalled his money-digging activities for his official history, he wrote only about searching for a lost mine in 1825 for Josiah Stowell. But contemporary records suggest that this had been one of the Smith family occupations in the Palmyra/Manchester area since the early 1820s. For example, Joshua Stafford of Manchester recalled that he ‘became acquainted with the family of Joseph Smith, Sen. about the year 1819 or 20. They then were laboring people, in low circumstances. A short time after this, they commenced digging for hidden treasures,…and told marvellous stories about ghosts, hob-goblins, caverns, and various other mysterious matters.’ Willard Chase, another friend of the family, similarly recalled, ‘I became acquainted with the Smith family…in the year 1820. At that time they were engaged in the money digging business.’" (Inventing Mormonism, Marquardt and Walters, p.64)"

              and, Lucy, in her book, admits the family participated in soothsaying, telling the future:

              Soothsaying IS Palmistry and other forms of divination:


              "Let not the reader suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a season that we stopt our labor and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrac [,] drawing Magic circles or sooth saying [sic] to the neglect of all kinds of buisness [.W]e never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remmember [sic] the service of & the welfare of our souls."

              What she's saying here is that the family did practice the occult, but not to the neglect of their business or work. She refers to these as "important interests. " You, Craig, really need to study what actually is being said, not what Mormons wish was said.

              Also
              Lucy Mack Smith

              Lucy taught her children. She could not tell the difference between the Spirit of God and the powers of darkness. She ignored or was ignorant of God’s total rebuke of witchcraft and divination.

              “Yet her husbands ingrained aversion to evangelical religion and the churches confirmed her own skepticism and alienation. She hovered on the edge of respectable religion, attracted and repelled at the same time.” Richard Bushman, Joseph Smith and the Beginnings of Mormonism, pg. 39

              “Lucy Mack Smith practiced “palmistry, card-divination, and tea leaf reading as late as 1880’s.” -Quinn, Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, pg. 294-295
              “For people of a magical frame of mind, Moroni sounded like one of the spirits who stood guard over treasure in the tales of treasure seeking.85 The similarities may even have made the extraordinary story more credible in the Smith family. Lucy recognized the crossover in prefacing her narrative of the plates with the caution against thinking

              “That we stopt our labors and went at trying to win the faculty of Abrae drawing Magic circles or soothsaying to the neglect of all kinds of business we never during our lives suffered one important interest to swallow up every other obligation but whilst we worked with our hands we endeavored to remember the service of & welfare of our souls.”

              Lucy’s point was that the Smith’s were not lazy-they had not stopped their labor to practice magic- but she showed her knowledge of formulas and rituals and associated them with “the welfare of their souls. Magic and religion melded in the Smith family culture.”- Richard Bushman, Joseph Smith Rough Stone Rolling, pg.51 (source: http://www.sharpenedsword.com/page/page/3925192.htm 0

              Cowdery, Joe's cousin, who edited the Book of Mormon, came from a family that used diving rods and was probably involved in this cult:
              ... a religious group began using forked divining rods for revelatory purposes in Vermont about 1800. This was not far from the Smiths, or from William Cowdery (father of future Book of Mormon scribe Oliver Cowdery). At Middletown, Vermont, Nathaniel Wood was instructing his followers that "they were descendants of the ancient Jews, and lawful inheritors of the whole country." They believed in alchemy and used a "cleft stick, or rod," to discover "the hidden treasures of the earth" and to receive instructions by"a nod of assent � from the rods," (emphasis in original) including a revelation "that they must build a temple"...

              The Wood group's civil prominence, fervor, and open conflict with non-believers led to the so-called "Wood Scrape," a sensational event known far beyond the Cowdery family's residence six miles away. The Wood group's "Fraternity of Rodsmen" boldly prophesied they would inherit that region of the country in an apocalyptic event on 14 January 1802.... This was happening six miles from the Cowderys' home....

              From 1800 to 1802, Nathaniel Wood's "use of the rod was mostly as a medium of revelation"... A connection between William Cowdery and the Wood Scrape would help to explain why his son Oliver had a rod through which he received revelations.... (Quinn, Early Mormonism and the Magic World View)
              It would be far better if Mormons researched issues than always pretending to have the answers. They don't.
              [/QUOTE]

              Smith was a witch. He practiced the occult. CFR that he did not.
              Christian scholar John MacArthur about Mormonism: “Mormonism is wrong in epic proportions.”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post
                What she's saying here is that the family did practice the occult, but not to the neglect of their business or work.
                No she isn't. There is no indication in that quote that they practiced the occult. You, Catherine Aurelia, really need to study what is actually being said, not what anti-Mormons wish was said.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

                  Joseph Smith was a Witch, and if you follow him, you are involved in Witchcraft
                  Matthew 5:

                  11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
                  12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.


                  Joseph Smith rejoices in heaven, while his enemies are adding coals of fire on their heads here on earth:

                  Romans 12:

                  20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.


                  This is the advice that he followed when he was on earth. He was quite a clever guy.

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