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  • Resurrection Sunday...

    This coming Sunday is known to Christians as Resurrection Sunday. Others call it Easter. As a follower of Christ, my faith and hope is that when Christ returns, I will not only return with him, I will be given a resurrected body... This hope is due to Jesus himself rising from the dead three days after his crucifixion... Jesus paid the price to the Father that our sin requires, which is the death of an innocent person... If I had to pay this debt, I would not qualify as innocent and would have to spend eternity in what is often called Hell... My faith and trust is in Jesus Christ. I am not my own. I was purchased with the price, the shed blood of Christ...
    Be light. Share The Gospel. Grow the Kingdom...

  • #2
    Originally posted by Yodas_Prodigy View Post
    This coming Sunday is known to Christians as Resurrection Sunday. Others call it Easter. As a follower of Christ, my faith and hope is that when Christ returns, I will not only return with him, I will be given a resurrected body... This hope is due to Jesus himself rising from the dead three days after his crucifixion... Jesus paid the price to the Father that our sin requires, which is the death of an innocent person... If I had to pay this debt, I would not qualify as innocent and would have to spend eternity in what is often called Hell... My faith and trust is in Jesus Christ. I am not my own. I was purchased with the price, the shed blood of Christ...
    And the Book of Mormon is true!
    zerinus
    I am a Mormon!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by zerinus View Post

      And the Book of Mormon is true!
      There is no truth in that statement.. Your testimony can never alter the fact that there is nothing in the BoM that corresponds to known history.
      MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

      1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

      2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

      3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

      4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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      • #4
        Originally posted by john t View Post

        There is no truth in that statement.. Your testimony can never alter the fact that there is nothing in the BoM that corresponds to known history.
        It can still be examined theologically. I am more interested in discussing theology than history.
        zerinus
        I am a Mormon!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by zerinus View Post

          It can still be examined theologically. I am more interested in discussing theology than history.
          Theology without the backing of historical facts is as full of nonsense as is Scientology, the cult founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.
          MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

          1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

          2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

          3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

          4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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          • #6
            Originally posted by john t View Post

            Theology without the backing of historical facts is as full of nonsense as is Scientology, the cult founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.
            That is rubbish. So every theology book needs to be a history book? Like it or not, this is a Mormon forum. It is a place to discuss Mormon theology and doctrine. And Mormon theology and doctrine is derived from Mormon scripture, which includes the Book of Mormon. It is impossible to discuss Mormonism without making reference to the Book of Mormon. If you are not interested in discussing Mormon beliefs, teachings, theology, and doctrine, you are wasting your own time and other people's in here.
            zerinus
            I am a Mormon!

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            • #7

              Originally posted by zerinus View Post
              It can still be examined theologically. I am more interested in discussing theology than history.

              Originally posted by john t View Post
              Theology without the backing of historical facts is as full of nonsense as is Scientology, the cult founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

              Originally posted by zerinus View Post

              That is rubbish. So every theology book needs to be a history book? Like it or not, this is a Mormon forum. It is a place to discuss Mormon theology and doctrine. And Mormon theology and doctrine is derived from Mormon scripture, which includes the Book of Mormon. It is impossible to discuss Mormonism without making reference to the Book of Mormon. .
              Thank you for contradicting yourself

              As to your snarky comment:

              If you are not interested in discussing Mormon beliefs, teachings, theology, and doctrine, you are wasting your own time and other people's in here
              It demonstrates that you seem to want to simply argue, than to make a consistent, on-topic discussion. Pity
              MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

              1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

              2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

              3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

              4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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              • #8
                This is from one of my favorite authors.
                Just enjoy it!




                Easter and Missions

                “That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection . . . ” (Philippians 3:10).

                by A. W. Tozer
                Do we really believe that the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is something more than making us the “happiest fellows in the Easter parade”? Are we just to listen to the bright cantata and join in singing “Up from the Grave He Arose,” smell the flowers, and go home and forget it?

                No, certainly not! It is truth and a promise with a specific moral application. The Resurrection certainly commands us with all the authority of sovereign obligation—the missionary obligation!

                I cannot give in to the devil’s principle, deceitful tactic, which makes so many Christians satisfied with an “Easter celebration” instead of experiencing the power of Christ’s Resurrection. It is the devil’s business to keep Christians mourning and weeping with pity beside the cross instead of demonstrating that Jesus Christ is risen, indeed.

                When will the Christian church rise up, depend on His promise and power, and get on the offensive for the risen and ascended Savior?

                Pray


                Lord, Your Resurrection has made me truly happy; nothing else could mean more. It made the way for my salvation.

                Taken from Renewed Day by Day, Volume II, by A. W. Tozer.
                MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

                1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

                2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

                3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

                4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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                • #9
                  Originally posted by john t View Post


                  Thank you for contradicting yourself

                  As to your snarky comment:


                  It demonstrates that you seem to want to simply argue, than to make a consistent, on-topic discussion. Pity
                  Wasting time. Not interested.
                  zerinus
                  I am a Mormon!

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                  • #10

                    Originally posted by john t View Post
                    Thank you for contradicting yourself

                    As to your snarky comment:

                    It demonstrates that you seem to want to simply argue, than to make a consistent, on-topic discussion. Pity


                    Originally posted by zerinus View Post

                    Wasting time. Not interested.
                    No, you are changing your tune with every new post, jumping from one contradiction to another.

                    Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult
                    MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

                    1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

                    2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

                    3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

                    4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zerinus View Post

                      And the Book of Mormon is true!
                      Which has zero to do with what Yoda posted...
                      "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                      "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                      Its easy to fool a man, but nearly impossible to convince him he's been fooled. --Mark Twain."
                      "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                      "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                      "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bonnie View Post
                        Originally posted by zerinus View Post

                        And the Book of Mormon is true!

                        Which has zero to do with what Yoda posted...
                        I second that. This OP should have stood all on its own as a testimony from the writer, unless someone had something to add to it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by zerinus View Post

                          And the Book of Mormon is true!
                          Well - at least we know that Mosiah 14 is true (since Joe and the boys plagiarized it from Isaiah 53 in the REAL Bible).
                          Last edited by Bob Carabbio; 04-17-19, 03:25 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                            Well - at least we know that Mosiah 14 is true (since Joe and the boys plagiarized it from Isaiah 53 in the REAL Bible).
                            3 Nephi 11 is true too. Take a look.
                            zerinus
                            I am a Mormon!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by zerinus View Post

                              3 Nephi 11 is true too. Take a look.
                              Rejected. Well spun fantasy, though.

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