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  • #46
    Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

    Did God make himself lower than his creation? Does God change? Is God a man?

    God bless you,

    SeventhDay
    No, no and no.

    God never became a man, nor will He ever become a man. A man was made God, though.😇

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Truther View Post

      No, no and no.

      God never became a man, nor will He ever become a man. A man was made God, though.😇
      No, a man was not made God but made a Son of God!

      This is by begettal, by proclamation through an angel and by the Father and by death and resurrection.

      Do you know who Jesus is?

      God bless you,

      SeventhDay

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      • #48
        Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

        No, a man was not made God but made a Son of God!

        This is by begettal, by proclamation through an angel and by the Father and by death and resurrection.

        Do you know who Jesus is?

        God bless you,

        SeventhDay
        You forget. The dead/resurrected son was made a quickening spirit/ God.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Truther View Post

          You forget. The dead/resurrected son was made a quickening spirit/ God.
          Jesus who is the Logos was always a quickening Spirit because he is the Father but the Son becoming a quickening Spirit is coming back to God who Jesus is.

          Joh 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
          The glory the Son had before the Logos was made flesh is God himself which is the Father that he is praying to. Is that hard for you to understand?

          You know very well there is only one Lord God and that is Jesus!

          God bless you,

          SeventhDay



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          • #50
            Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

            Jesus who is the Logos was always a quickening Spirit because he is the Father but the Son becoming a quickening Spirit is coming back to God who Jesus is.



            The glory the Son had before the Logos was made flesh is God himself which is the Father that he is praying to. Is that hard for you to understand?

            You know very well there is only one Lord God and that is Jesus!

            God bless you,

            SeventhDay


            He was made a quickening spirit per the verse.

            Who made him?

            Himself?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Truther View Post

              He was made a quickening spirit per the verse.

              Who made him?

              Himself?
              Yes, God made himself the role of the Son of God that God is in and thus God is in the role of the Father as well!

              God bless you,

              SeventhDay

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Truther View Post
                He was made a quickening spirit per the verse.
                The two of you (you and 7th day) have completely destroyed talking about the topic post of this thread. I assume you are both adults? Does common courtesy and respect have no place in your respective truth claims? If you had wanted to go back and forth on a topic other than the topic of the thread why didn't you just begin your thread? Why did you feel it was okay to ruin someone else's topic?

                TheLayman

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by TheLayman View Post

                  The two of you (you and 7th day) have completely destroyed talking about the topic post of this thread. I assume you are both adults? Does common courtesy and respect have no place in your respective truth claims? If you had wanted to go back and forth on a topic other than the topic of the thread why didn't you just begin your thread? Why did you feel it was okay to ruin someone else's topic?

                  TheLayman
                  What makes you think we are off track? The Son of God who is the last Adam was raised a quickening spirit is definitely not off track and must be considered in our understanding of who God is and there is only one God!

                  Is not Jesus as the Son of God the logos who is God made flesh or is he a second party person God made flesh? We need to understand this!

                  Is God one or is God three!

                  God bless you,

                  SeventhDay

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by TheLayman View Post

                    The two of you (you and 7th day) have completely destroyed talking about the topic post of this thread. I assume you are both adults? Does common courtesy and respect have no place in your respective truth claims? If you had wanted to go back and forth on a topic other than the topic of the thread why didn't you just begin your thread? Why did you feel it was okay to ruin someone else's topic?

                    TheLayman
                    You started a thread, trashing oneness.

                    I defended them, showing that trin wrong and oneness wrong does not make a right.

                    Your thread is like a JW trashing a Mormon...irrelevant.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

                      Yes, God made himself the role of the Son of God that God is in and thus God is in the role of the Father as well!

                      God bless you,

                      SeventhDay
                      What movie did God star in?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SeventhDay View Post

                        What makes you think we are off track? The Son of God who is the last Adam was raised a quickening spirit is definitely not off track and must be considered in our understanding of who God is and there is only one God!

                        Is not Jesus as the Son of God the logos who is God made flesh or is he a second party person God made flesh? We need to understand this!

                        Is God one or is God three!

                        God bless you,

                        SeventhDay

                        You better read the opening post in the thread again, nothing you are talking about has anything to do with it...I should know, I wrote the opening post.

                        TheLayman

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Truther View Post

                          You started a thread, trashing oneness.

                          I defended them, showing that trin wrong and oneness wrong does not make a right.

                          Your thread is like a JW trashing a Mormon...irrelevant.
                          I didn't "trash" anybody. If there was some specific thing in the opening post you wished to discuss, you failed to do so. Nothing in any of your posts has anything to do with the opening post. Still defending your rudeness aren't you? And I see you have decided to renege on just staying out of my threads because you always, always do this. I can't stop, only you suddenly learning to be courteous would do that and I'm not holding my breath.

                          TheLayman

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TheLayman View Post

                            I didn't "trash" anybody. If there was some specific thing in the opening post you wished to discuss, you failed to do so. Nothing in any of your posts has anything to do with the opening post. Still defending your rudeness aren't you? And I see you have decided to renege on just staying out of my threads because you always, always do this. I can't stop, only you suddenly learning to be courteous would do that and I'm not holding my breath.

                            TheLayman
                            Don't know if you have noticed but I am keeping your thread at the top by talking on it with SD.

                            This is the thanks I get?

                            Also, I know oneness is incorrect, and so is trinity.

                            So, why is an incorrect concept attempting to debunk another incorrect concept?

                            Yes, this is a challenge to a debate with you, by me, with 1st century doctrine, using KJV wording of the true oneness doctrine(unification of the Spirit Father and begotten son)of the Bible VS trinitarianism.,
                            Last edited by Truther; 02-10-19, 06:34 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by TheLayman View Post


                              You better read the opening post in the thread again, nothing you are talking about has anything to do with it...I should know, I wrote the opening post.

                              TheLayman
                              Okay.

                              I do not go by a label in my doctrinal beliefs and know not enough about oneness teach to say I agree with your premise that they only affirm what is anti-trinitarin and have no doctrine of their own.

                              I seek not to pursue whether premise is true or not so I will bid you goodbye because I do not want to derail your posts.

                              Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

                              God bless you,

                              SeventhDay.

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