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  • Jesus is the Lord.

    According to scripture, there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5).

    One Lord, one faith, one baptism.

    Now according to Matthew 11:25 and Luke 10:21, the Father is that Lord.

    At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

    In that time Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father, for so it seemed good in thy sight.

    But according to 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 Corinthians 12:3, Jesus is that Lord.

    But unto us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him: even one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

    Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that
    no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    According to 2 Corinthians 3:17, the Lord is that Spirit (the Holy Ghost...John 7:37-39).

    Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

    In the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of
    the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given: because that Jesus was not yet glorified).

    Mark 12:29 tells us that the Lord our God is one Lord...the Lord is God.

    And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is: Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord.

    Now there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).

    There is one body and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.

    According to John 4:23-24, the Father is that Spirit.

    But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    According to Colossians 1:27, Jesus is that Spirit.

    To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

    And according to John 7:37-39, the Holy Ghost is that Spirit.

    In the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given: because that Jesus was not yet glorified).

    There is one God and Father of all (Ephesians 4:6).

    One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    The Father is God according to that verse and a few other scriptures (and it is also a first truth that cannot be disputed).

    Jesus is God according to Hebrews 1:8-9.

    But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity: therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    The Holy Spirit is God according to Acts 5:3-4.

    But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men but unto God.

    Most scriptures define God as the Father; and when they refer to the Son or the Holy Ghost as being God, they do not exclude that definition.

    Finally, Colossians 2:9 declares that in Christ dwells all the fulness of the entire Godhead bodily. This would indicate that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are in the Person of Jesus Christ.

    (Christ)...For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    In Isaiah 9:6, it is written that the son that was given shall have the name Everlasting Father.

    For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his houlder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.

    I like what someone said about it recently. People have no problem with the other names given to the Son in Isaiah 9:6, but when Everlasting Father is indicated as being one of His names, all kinds of conjecture is suddenly produced as to what that REALLY means...as though the scripture doesn't say what it means and you have to look at all of it as a riddle.
    Last edited by justbyfaith; 08-31-18, 10:39 PM.

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    According to scripture, there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5).


    Now according to Matthew 11:25 and Luke 10:21, the Father is that Lord.

    But according to 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 Corinthians 12:3, Jesus is that Lord.

    According to 2 Corinthians 3:17, the Lord is that Spirit (the Holy Ghost...John 7:37-39).

    Mark 12:29 tells us that the Lord our God is one Lord...the Lord is God.



    Now there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).


    According to John 4:23-24, the Father is that Spirit.

    According to Colossians 1:27, Jesus is that Spirit.

    And according to John 7:37-39, the Holy Ghost is that Spirit.



    There is one God and Father of all (Ephesians 4:6).


    The Father is God according to that verse and a few other scriptures (and it is also a first truth that cannot be disputed).

    Jesus is God according to Hebrews 1:8-9.

    The Holy Ghost is God according to Acts 5:3-4.



    Most scriptures define God as the Father; and when they refer to the Son or the Holy Ghost as being God, they do not exclude that definition.



    Finally, Colossians 2:9 declares that in Christ dwells all the fulness of the entire Godhead bodily. This would indicate that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are in the Person of Jesus Christ.



    In Isaiah 9:6, it is written that the son that was given shall have the name Everlasting Father.

    I like what someone said about it recently. People have no problem with the other names given to the Son in Isaiah 9:6, but when Everlasting Father is indicated as being one of His names, all kinds of conjecture is suddenly produced as to what that REALLY means...as though the scripture doesn't say what it means and you have to look at all of it as a riddle.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by justbyfaith View Post
      According to scripture, there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5).

      One Lord, one faith, one baptism.

      Now according to Matthew 11:25 and Luke 10:21, the Father is that Lord.

      At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

      In that time Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father, for so it seemed good in thy sight.

      But according to 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 Corinthians 12:3, Jesus is that Lord.

      But unto us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him: even one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

      Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that
      no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

      According to 2 Corinthians 3:17, the Lord is that Spirit (the Holy Ghost...John 7:37-39).

      Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

      In the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of
      the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given: because that Jesus was not yet glorified).

      Mark 12:29 tells us that the Lord our God is one Lord...the Lord is God.

      And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is: Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord.

      Now there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).

      There is one body and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.

      According to John 4:23-24, the Father is that Spirit.

      But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

      According to Colossians 1:27, Jesus is that Spirit.

      To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

      And according to John 7:37-39, the Holy Ghost is that Spirit.

      In the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given: because that Jesus was not yet glorified).

      There is one God and Father of all (Ephesians 4:6).

      One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

      The Father is God according to that verse and a few other scriptures (and it is also a first truth that cannot be disputed).

      Jesus is God according to Hebrews 1:8-9.

      But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity: therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

      The Holy Spirit is God according to Acts 5:3-4.

      But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men but unto God.

      Most scriptures define God as the Father; and when they refer to the Son or the Holy Ghost as being God, they do not exclude that definition.

      Finally, Colossians 2:9 declares that in Christ dwells all the fulness of the entire Godhead bodily. This would indicate that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are in the Person of Jesus Christ.

      (Christ)...For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

      In Isaiah 9:6, it is written that the son that was given shall have the name Everlasting Father.

      For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his houlder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.

      I like what someone said about it recently. People have no problem with the other names given to the Son in Isaiah 9:6, but when Everlasting Father is indicated as being one of His names, all kinds of conjecture is suddenly produced as to what that REALLY means...as though the scripture doesn't say what it means and you have to look at all of it as a riddle.
      Don't you at least find it curious that in Eph 4:4-6, the title "GOD" is reserved for the Father ALONE?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by justbyfaith View Post
        According to scripture, there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5).


        Now according to Matthew 11:25 and Luke 10:21, the Father is that Lord.

        But according to 1 Corinthians 8:6 and 1 Corinthians 12:3, Jesus is that Lord.

        According to 2 Corinthians 3:17, the Lord is that Spirit (the Holy Ghost...John 7:37-39).

        Mark 12:29 tells us that the Lord our God is one Lord...the Lord is God.



        Now there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).


        According to John 4:23-24, the Father is that Spirit.

        According to Colossians 1:27, Jesus is that Spirit.

        And according to John 7:37-39, the Holy Ghost is that Spirit.



        There is one God and Father of all (Ephesians 4:6).


        The Father is God according to that verse and a few other scriptures (and it is also a first truth that cannot be disputed).

        Jesus is God according to Hebrews 1:8-9.

        The Holy Ghost is God according to Acts 5:3-4.



        Most scriptures define God as the Father; and when they refer to the Son or the Holy Ghost as being God, they do not exclude that definition.



        Finally, Colossians 2:9 declares that in Christ dwells all the fulness of the entire Godhead bodily. This would indicate that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are in the Person of Jesus Christ.



        In Isaiah 9:6, it is written that the son that was given shall have the name Everlasting Father.

        I like what someone said about it recently. People have no problem with the other names given to the Son in Isaiah 9:6, but when Everlasting Father is indicated as being one of His names, all kinds of conjecture is suddenly produced as to what that REALLY means...as though the scripture doesn't say what it means and you have to look at all of it as a riddle.
        The reality is that both el gibbor (mighty god) and b`ad (everlasting father) should be understood not in a literal sense, but an idiomatic sense.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by forever4truth View Post

          The reality is that both el gibbor (mighty god) and b`ad (everlasting father) should be understood not in a literal sense, but an idiomatic sense.
          I disagree.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by forever4truth View Post

            Don't you at least find it curious that in Eph 4:4-6, the title "GOD" is reserved for the Father ALONE?
            Indeed. Therefore if Jesus and the Holy Ghost are indeed God, that would make them the Father to a certain extent.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by justbyfaith View Post

              Indeed. Therefore if Jesus and the Holy Ghost are indeed God, that would make them the Father to a certain extent.
              You neither got his drift or made a correct inference. You are me to a certain extent and I am Michael Jackson to a certain extent. We can blibber and blabber and gum our teeth together in harmony to a certain extent. It's all good man.

              Oh duh ballad in de maken man. Kumbaya and whatevers man.
              Shema will change the Christian World.

              Turn it upside down. To where it once was, the POV of JESUS, his DISCIPLES and his SERVANTS.

              Know God YHWH Elohim is One. And love Him with all. Mk 12, red letter words.

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              • #8
                Michael Jackson is in hell, wouldn't want to be you.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by justbyfaith View Post
                  Michael Jackson is in hell, wouldn't want to be you.
                  Drinken Pepsi.

                  Who knows who is in hell. I never guess. It would be disrespectful to guess, I would guess.
                  Shema will change the Christian World.

                  Turn it upside down. To where it once was, the POV of JESUS, his DISCIPLES and his SERVANTS.

                  Know God YHWH Elohim is One. And love Him with all. Mk 12, red letter words.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by justbyfaith View Post

                    I disagree.
                    So then...Hezekiah was both "mighty God" and "Everlasting Father" by what principle? Yours, that the odder two Persons of Trinity are in some way the same as the Father sir?

                    This was originally the "ousia" or essence, being, nature, substance of Jesus IN COMMON with the Father, called "homoiousian" sir. But Hezekiah could not have had THAT sir.
                    Shema will change the Christian World.

                    Turn it upside down. To where it once was, the POV of JESUS, his DISCIPLES and his SERVANTS.

                    Know God YHWH Elohim is One. And love Him with all. Mk 12, red letter words.

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                    • #11
                      You think that Isaiah 9:6 refers to Hezekiah?

                      Support your answer.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by justbyfaith View Post
                        You think that Isaiah 9:6 refers to Hezekiah?

                        Support your answer.
                        Isaiah 9:6-7 is a part of Isaiah's response to the Assyrian crises in the days of Ahaz, in which Ahaz fails to trust God and makes Judah an Assyrian vassal state. In the oracles of judgment and hope surrounding the event, Isaiah pronounces the royal hope of Davidide in 9:6-7. The original audience of Isaiah were Ahaz and the Judahites facing the Assyrian threat.

                        http://thirdmill.org/magazine/articl...Isaiah%209:6-7
                        Shema will change the Christian World.

                        Turn it upside down. To where it once was, the POV of JESUS, his DISCIPLES and his SERVANTS.

                        Know God YHWH Elohim is One. And love Him with all. Mk 12, red letter words.

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                        • #13
                          That link holds an interesting but erroneous point of view.

                          Jesus claimed to be God; and the apostles also substantiated His claims.

                          Jesus also said that if you fail to understand and believe that He is the Great I AM, you will die in your sins.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by justbyfaith View Post
                            That link holds an interesting but erroneous point of view.

                            Jesus claimed to be God; and the apostles also substantiated His claims.

                            Jesus also said that if you fail to understand and believe that He is the Great I AM, you will die in your sins.
                            You want to get into "I am Theology" I will dunk yo' head, after I crossed your ankles and put you behind my left shoulder.

                            Jesus never claimed to be God. This would naturally be in Text: "I am God," or...em...uh...yesh..."I claim to be God."
                            Shema will change the Christian World.

                            Turn it upside down. To where it once was, the POV of JESUS, his DISCIPLES and his SERVANTS.

                            Know God YHWH Elohim is One. And love Him with all. Mk 12, red letter words.

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                            • #15
                              I accept the challenge.

                              The only way you can avoid the fact that Jesus claimed to be God is to adhere to a faulty translation of the Bible (the NeWT (a snake with legs)).

                              In Exodus 3:14 the name of God is clearly I AM.

                              Jesus broke normal grammatical usage to claim that He is the great I AM in John 8:58. The scribes and Pharisees knew what He was saying to them. They picked up stones to stone Him for blasphemy (John 8:59, John 10:31-33).

                              I was a pretty good wrestler in High School, have at it!

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