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Deputationalism: Did God Send Someone Else?

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  • Deputationalism: Did God Send Someone Else?

    A while back the late Robert Sabin, a regular in the Oneness Pentecostal apologetics movement, wrote a piece accusing evangelicals of believing a form of deputationalism.[1] That is, some Oneness Pentecostals (including at least Sabin and James N. Anderson who repeated this argument) level the charge that we believe that God sent someone else to do the saving (i.e., a soteriological deputationist). On this view, trinitarians don't really believe God came himself to save the world-- instead he sent someone else. I've heard this argument in a variety of contexts, and so I figured I'd attempt to refute it here. This charge engages in the fallacy of the excluded middle. Paul says in Galatians 1:3-4:
    "Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father..."
    Paul teaches us throughout his corpus, but especially in Galatians, that God the Father sent his Son (4:4) and that God the Son “gave himself for our sins.” This self-giving, indicated by the reflexive pronoun “himself” (heaton), was in cooperation with the Father and by the power of the Spirit. Jesus sacrificed himself “according to the will of our God and Father” Because Jesus is both God and the Son of God, the charge of deputationalism fails. The sacrifice of Christ, like that the creation, incarnation, and resurrection, was a Triune work.

    [1] Robert Sabin, “Jesus: Delegate of God? Or God in the Flesh?,” WhoisJesus.com, http://whoisjesus.com/deputy.html. Accessed 01/31/2019.
    Trinitarian Apologist - Evangelical Contrarian
    B.S. Theology and Bible, Master of Biblical Studies (NT)

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    Learn who Almighty God is 101==
    The One True Almighty God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit= The One True Almighty God!!!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GISMYS View Post
      Learn who Almighty God is 101==
      The One True Almighty God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit= The One True Almighty God!!!
      I'm likely not the first person to say this, but your posts are absolutely vacuous and completely useless. Why not refrain from posting such dribble?
      Trinitarian Apologist - Evangelical Contrarian
      B.S. Theology and Bible, Master of Biblical Studies (NT)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Michael View Post

        I'm likely not the first person to say this, but your posts are absolutely vacuous and completely useless. Why not refrain from posting such dribble?
        Thank you!!! Facing Truth is not easy for those that allow satan to blind them and use them as his tool!!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Michael View Post
          A while back the late Robert Sabin, a regular in the Oneness Pentecostal apologetics movement, wrote a piece accusing evangelicals of believing a form of deputationalism.[1] That is, some Oneness Pentecostals (including at least Sabin and James N. Anderson who repeated this argument) level the charge that we believe that God sent someone else to do the saving (i.e., a soteriological deputationist). On this view, trinitarians don't really believe God came himself to save the world-- instead he sent someone else. I've heard this argument in a variety of contexts, and so I figured I'd attempt to refute it here. This charge engages in the fallacy of the excluded middle. Paul says in Galatians 1:3-4:
          "Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father..."
          Paul teaches us throughout his corpus, but especially in Galatians, that God the Father sent his Son (4:4) and that God the Son “gave himself for our sins.” This self-giving, indicated by the reflexive pronoun “himself” (heaton), was in cooperation with the Father and by the power of the Spirit. Jesus sacrificed himself “according to the will of our God and Father” Because Jesus is both God and the Son of God, the charge of deputationalism fails. The sacrifice of Christ, like that the creation, incarnation, and resurrection, was a Triune work.

          [1] Robert Sabin, “Jesus: Delegate of God? Or God in the Flesh?,” WhoisJesus.com, http://whoisjesus.com/deputy.html. Accessed 01/31/2019.
          He was the Son of Himself?

          Is this highlighted statement rational?

          Please explain this phenomenon.

          Thanks.

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            Almighty God is far far beyond little man's understanding so God gave man His eternal living Word to give us His Truth!!! The One True Almighty God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit= The One Almighty God!! PTL.

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            • #7
              God have birth to Himself?

              This sure is a mystery.

              Doesn't this make Mary the mother of God?

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                Believe and understand the Word of God! ----- Philippians 2:6-8

                6 Jesus==Who, being in very nature God,
                did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
                7 rather, he made himself nothing
                by taking the very nature of a servant,
                being made in human likeness.
                8 And being found in appearance as a man,
                he humbled himself
                by becoming obedient to death
                even death on a cross!


                I chose to believe God's Word that Jesus is God!!!

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