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  • Panzerfaust
    started a topic I have trouble loving God

    I have trouble loving God

    Hi

    I'll be 21 in a few days, I'm a roman catholic and honestly, being a Christian was a really bad experience from the beginning (I was baptized and received the sacraments). Since I was a kid, my idea of God was this horrible tyrant that will judge me when I die and the more I research, the more accurate this feels. I never felt His presence, or any positive presence while praying or going to church. All I feel towards Him are doubts and fear. I prayed to Him hundreds, maybe thousands of times to give me a sign that He really loves me or that at least He's there. No answer. Every time I prayed it felt like I was talking to myself.

    The only thing that prevents me from giving up is the fear of hell. I'm really terrified of it. And why wouldn't I? I can't imagine a more horrible and disgusting punishment than hell.
    What's especially horrible is the thought that most people that have ever lived will be burning there forever, some of them might be my family members and friends. That's really disturbing to me and I can't see how a loving God would create such conditions.

    Christianity feels like a dystopia and there is no escape. If I knew annihilationism is true, I'd sign up for that hell right away, because non-existence sounds infinitely better than existing like this.
    I can either go to hell and suffer forever or go to a place where I will somehow feel good for an eternity while knowing my friends are in hell. Doesn't make any sense to me.
    Trying to love God while knowing hell exists is like trying to love someone who has a gun pointed at your head.

    What do I do?

  • Bluemayskye
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    Originally posted by Panzerfaust View Post
    Hi

    I'll be 21 in a few days, I'm a roman catholic and honestly, being a Christian was a really bad experience from the beginning (I was baptized and received the sacraments). Since I was a kid, my idea of God was this horrible tyrant that will judge me when I die and the more I research, the more accurate this feels. I never felt His presence, or any positive presence while praying or going to church. All I feel towards Him are doubts and fear. I prayed to Him hundreds, maybe thousands of times to give me a sign that He really loves me or that at least He's there. No answer. Every time I prayed it felt like I was talking to myself.

    The only thing that prevents me from giving up is the fear of hell. I'm really terrified of it. And why wouldn't I? I can't imagine a more horrible and disgusting punishment than hell.
    What's especially horrible is the thought that most people that have ever lived will be burning there forever, some of them might be my family members and friends. That's really disturbing to me and I can't see how a loving God would create such conditions.

    Christianity feels like a dystopia and there is no escape. If I knew annihilationism is true, I'd sign up for that hell right away, because non-existence sounds infinitely better than existing like this.
    I can either go to hell and suffer forever or go to a place where I will somehow feel good for an eternity while knowing my friends are in hell. Doesn't make any sense to me.
    Trying to love God while knowing hell exists is like trying to love someone who has a gun pointed at your head.

    What do I do?
    Hi
    ​​And same.
    And welcome!

    As for what to do, asking that question here is a symptom of the problem. You may receive several perspectives based on whatever flavor of dogma is accepted by the one responding. The problem is that you have allowed someone else to choose your beliefs. No one has definitive proof that their beliefs are correct. Choosing a religion at the exclusion of all others effectively ends you search for truth and accepts another person's view as absolute.

    My opinion (as with all should be taken with large grains of pink himalayan salt) on hell is that it was inserted by religious leaders as a conversion tool.

    Freedom can be found in accepting that all religions are man made and the search for truth should not end with another person's opinion of God.

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