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  • where are the boundaries? limits?

    1 Timothy 5:8 But if any do not take care of their relatives, especially the members of their own family, they have denied the faith and are worse than an unbeliever.
    It does not help much to dwell on those things you did or did not do in the past. At the time, you did the very best you could, given your knowledge, and experience.

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    Originally posted by Daniel Marsh View Post
    1 Timothy 5:8 But if any do not take care of their relatives, especially the members of their own family, they have denied the faith and are worse than an unbeliever.
    Yep. Don't do that--not the way you want to meet your maker.

    But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel (1 Ti 5:8).
    Last edited by serpentdove; 07-14-17, 11:02 AM.
    "Being a square keeps you from going around in circles." ~ J. Vernon McGee
    Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13

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    • #3
      and, where are the limits and boundaries?
      It does not help much to dwell on those things you did or did not do in the past. At the time, you did the very best you could, given your knowledge, and experience.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Daniel Marsh View Post
        and, where are the limits and boundaries?
        I don't know what you're talking about.
        "Being a square keeps you from going around in circles." ~ J. Vernon McGee
        Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Daniel Marsh View Post
          and, where are the limits and boundaries?
          This would be where you will need to seek the wisdom of the Holy Spirit for your particular situation, since there are many variables that can be involved. If you're needing specifics in your particular situation, then post your situation so that we can better help you with clarity.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Daniel Marsh View Post
            and, where are the limits and boundaries?
            The story of the prodigal son says it all. It is only once the lost son repents and returns home to his Father will his needs be met and accepted. When our carnal children reject Christ and are adults, we must let them go they are as Cain, Esau, Ishmael and not of the Spirit as our brethren. Small children under our care are to be brought up in the Lord while we have dominion over their care. But once they move away separating themselves from our godly guidance we must let them go, but if they are not living right and they begin to suffer in life for their actions. We are not to chase after them, cleaning up their messes, keeping them afloat enabling them to die with out Christ in their life, for their OWN GOOD, out of the Love of God for their soul. Christ is our measure and our boundaries, for the Word tells us what is good. Caring for persons, does not just mean to provide stuff, but to teach them to be disciplined in God's ways training them up in the Word of Truth for integrity and godly character as the wisdom of God teaches us and is better than gold or rubies.

            We are not to be yoked in association with unbelievers other than to witness to them and we certainly are not to support their way of life!

            2 Corin.6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

            15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

            16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

            17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

            18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
            Last edited by afaithfulone4u; 07-14-17, 07:45 PM.
            The purpose of my posts are not to cause bicker or division, but to show truth from the scripture for edifying of the soul. It does not matter what we think, it is what God's Word says that matters.

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            • #7
              I am the care giver for eight family members, as such I am over burdened. My Brother decided that He can take care of our Mother(77). He has been draining her of all $700 that she gets each month and keeps over drawing her bank account. His Trailer burned down and he lost his girlfriend in it. He moved in with Mom. He has no job right now --- learning dis liabilities, not taking baths, wearing the same clothes all the time and baby talk like speech holds him back. At one time they both own a house and due to back taxes and no maintenance they lost both homes to the cities. When we ask them a question via phone, we never get a straight answer on anything.. We often catch them in counter fictions. They call us only when they need something. At this time both of their cars are broke down. Mom lost her divers license due to blindness. WE live in Brighton MI and they live in Romulus, MI over a hundred mile round trip.
              It does not help much to dwell on those things you did or did not do in the past. At the time, you did the very best you could, given your knowledge, and experience.

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                It does not help much to dwell on those things you did or did not do in the past. At the time, you did the very best you could, given your knowledge, and experience.

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                • #9
                  Should one put money in the bank to cover their Mother's bounced checks?

                  Should one buy their brother anything he wants?

                  Should you send a family member advertisements without a note explaining why you sent it to them for things you want?
                  It does not help much to dwell on those things you did or did not do in the past. At the time, you did the very best you could, given your knowledge, and experience.

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