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Any Christians who use Cannabidiol? (CBD)

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  • Any Christians who use Cannabidiol? (CBD)

    If so, what ailments do you use it for?
    "In faith, there is enough light for those who want to believe, and enough shadows to blind those who don't." -Blaise Pascal

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    I am going to start using it for pain. I was in a car accident over a year ago with injuries to my neck and lower back. I've been through 3 sets of nerve blocks, a bilateral occipital nerve block and have not found any relief from the pain. Using CBD was actually suggested by my pain specialist.

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    • #3
      Same here, regarding nerve blocks, facet injections, nerve burns and trigger point injections.
      As a Christian, do you have any misgivings about using a cannabis-derived product?
      (I personally don't--I'm just curious about other Christians).

      My wife (bless her heart, and afterall, she could be right) but she differentiates between HEMP and Pot (whereas me, not so much). They are both technically cannabis.
      I'm currently on Norco, cyclobenzoprene and Meloxicam (Mobic) but they don't help all that much and I hear after prolonged use they can become addictive (Norco at least), not to mention what the acetaminophen does to your liver.

      Thanks for your reply.
      "In faith, there is enough light for those who want to believe, and enough shadows to blind those who don't." -Blaise Pascal

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Undead View Post
        As a Christian, do you have any misgivings about using a cannabis-derived product?
        I don't use it but I can't imagine it would be a sin to use a medicinal plant created by God. The only way I can see any marijuana use being remotely sinful is if a person is equivalent to being drunk where they lose control of their actions and are unable to give God the reverence He deserves.
        "He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:4, NKJV)"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by logix View Post

          I don't use it but I can't imagine it would be a sin to use a medicinal plant created by God. The only way I can see any marijuana use being remotely sinful is if a person is equivalent to being drunk where they lose control of their actions and are unable to give God the reverence He deserves.
          Addiction to prescription drugs cause this to a far greater (and more fatal) degree than any type of cannabis.
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          What's it worth shining for?

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          • #6
            When I was using cannabis, I felt very close to God. In fact, I got rid of all secular music, did not watch TV and did not use the Internet for over a year. All I did every day was read my Bible, use cannabis and sing and dance before the Lord.
            I also did some art, wrote poetry and made some posters.
            I am in the process of trying to start a "Christians for Cannabis" Group on this CARM board, but I'm having difficulty.. I keep getting some weird error:

            Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 536870912 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 33554432 bytes) in /home/frmcarm/public_html/vb5/core/vb/db/assertor.php on line 700
            "In faith, there is enough light for those who want to believe, and enough shadows to blind those who don't." -Blaise Pascal

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            • #7
              Originally posted by logix View Post

              I don't use it but I can't imagine it would be a sin to use a medicinal plant created by God..
              The people I have known that use cannabis do so in order to get loaded- not for "medicine".

              Its certainly different if someone uses opium or other products for legitimate pain issues

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              • #8
                I understand your point of view Southsider, but consider this paradigm shift for a moment: Imagine if you will that the Devil is doing his darndest to make cannabis appear as disgusting as possible to Christians since it is currently in the hands of people like Snoop-Dog and Whiz Kalifa who name strains weird things like "green crack" and "9 pound hammer" etc.. but what if.. just what if it is not for them, but it is God's provision for His people? And little old ladies that could benefit from it's medicinal uses see people like Snoop dog and are thinking "No way that can be holy" --but what if it IS???
                What if that is the giant deception? That this plant, which our Christian forefathers grew, and has 1,000's of uses, is being stolen from us--but soon, our people will wake up and take back the wealth of the wicked which has been laid up for the righteous? Did you know Hemp can be made into a Bio-fuel (renewable!) which could run all our machinery and cars off of? No more dependence upon foreign oil! And did you know it can cure cancer? And Dravets? Does Beelzebub cast out Beelzebub?

                When you get a chance, please read this thread and see if it has any effect on changing your mind: Could cannabis be the Tree of Life?

                PS: I also find it a little wonky to say you agree with people using deadly and addictive opioids for pain managment, but a non-toxic plant.. Oh heck no!
                "In faith, there is enough light for those who want to believe, and enough shadows to blind those who don't." -Blaise Pascal

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Southsider View Post

                  The people I have known that use cannabis do so in order to get loaded- not for "medicine".

                  Its certainly different if someone uses opium or other products for legitimate pain issues
                  Cannabis is safer and more effective than prescription drugs for some health problems. It's also not addictive like opioids and other prescription drugs.

                  Cocaine and other illegal street drugs were originally pharmaceutical medicines produced by Merck and other drug companies. If you've been to a dentist, you've probably heard of Novacaine. The name means "new cocaine" and is called that because dentists used to use cocaine.
                  Last edited by logix; 05-14-18, 01:19 AM.
                  "He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:4, NKJV)"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Undead View Post
                    Same here, regarding nerve blocks, facet injections, nerve burns and trigger point injections.
                    As a Christian, do you have any misgivings about using a cannabis-derived product?
                    (I personally don't--I'm just curious about other Christians).

                    My wife (bless her heart, and afterall, she could be right) but she differentiates between HEMP and Pot (whereas me, not so much). They are both technically cannabis.
                    I'm currently on Norco, cyclobenzoprene and Meloxicam (Mobic) but they don't help all that much and I hear after prolonged use they can become addictive (Norco at least), not to mention what the acetaminophen does to your liver.

                    Thanks for your reply.
                    I have no problems with it whatsoever. I'm currently on Flexeril only to try to prevent muscle spasms. But...it makes me sleepy so it is utterly useless unless I plan to do nothing. Took Mobic but it didn't help either.

                    I was a teenager in the 70's so I smoked my fair share of weed. I live in a state where it's legal now so no real repercussions unless I'm baked at work. I still haven't gotten up the nerve to try the CBD yet, but something has to give soon. I can't live like this anymore.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Undead View Post
                      not to mention what the acetaminophen does to your liver.
                      I've been dropping 2-3 grams of Acetaminophen for pain every day for the last 20 years, with no change, or problem in my Liver Function. Bottom line - SOME people will have issues apparently, and other people won't.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                        I've been dropping 2-3 grams of Acetaminophen for pain every day for the last 20 years, with no change, or problem in my Liver Function. Bottom line - SOME people will have issues apparently, and other people won't.
                        2-3 grams? Isn't that way above the recommended dose?

                        I am one of those who cannot take acetaminophen anymore, or any statins either because now I have an autoimmune liver disease that is destroying the liver bile ducts (Primary Biliary Cholangitis). But there is a genetic component to PBC, which is a genome that is inherited. It runs in families.

                        I am happy for you that you can take so much for so long without harm.

                        I have had pain relief (for lower spine injury) success with radiographic ablation procedures (nerve burns). They last several years.
                        Cynthia...2 Witnesses knew the events of Damascus Road. Ananias & Judas, Acts 9. Reject Paul? U must reject Luke, Peter 2Pet3:15-18 and Mark, Peter's student. James/John are complicit as well as Matthew.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cynthia View Post
                          2-3 grams? Isn't that way above the recommended dose?
                          Right AT the max, but some doctors are more conservative. I've considered switching to Tramadol (which IS an opioid), which only takes two pills a day for the same effect. The doctors are O.K.with that. but since we're transitioning into winter now, that weather change brings a box lot of symptoms of it's own when you're older, so I'm not going to be too agressive with changes unti things stabilize a but more, although it liiks like there'll be another Angioplasty in my future.

                          I've tried Steroid injections in my sacroiliac joint for lower back pain, and in my thumbs which are bone on bone. so far so good on the thumbs (which are handy when you play banjo), but the jury's out on the sacroiliac, Of course I am 76, so maybe major aches and pains aren't all that unusual.

                          Two of the folks I work with couldn't take Statins either, but since I'm already on quite a cocktail of meds for Coronary artery disease, acetominiphen is the only pain killer that I can take because of all the other blood thinners I'm on. The doctors gave me 10-12 years in 1992, so the joke's on them.

                          I'm sorry to hear about your adverse reactions. I've been VERY FORTUNATE about what I can take without adverse reactions.

                          I have had pain relief (for lower spine injury) success with radiographic ablation procedures (nerve burns). They last several years.
                          WHen I had my Band, the lady who sang accompaniment with us was a back pain sufferer, and would lie on her back during rehearsals ans sing up while we sat in chairs around her, and sang down at her. I wish I had a picture of that -

                          She was able to get some relief with surgery (which she said made the good times better and longer, and the BAD times shorter, but worse.)

                          I'll put you on my prayer list -

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                          • #14
                            And you are on my prayer list as well, Bob.
                            Cynthia...2 Witnesses knew the events of Damascus Road. Ananias & Judas, Acts 9. Reject Paul? U must reject Luke, Peter 2Pet3:15-18 and Mark, Peter's student. James/John are complicit as well as Matthew.

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                            • #15
                              Cannabis... who created the herbs? God did, Who created pills and potions and medications with chemicals, MIXED with God's herbs? Fallen Man did!
                              They call those who use God's herbs for healing, witches and sorcerers, twisting the truth. And they call men who use man made chemicals, the doctors that heal.
                              Yet in the Greek, doctor meant teacher of God's Word, Rabbi which God says His Word(Jesus) is the healer when we apply the Word to our life. Jesus stood amongst the doctors which are teachers of the Law. The only two times the word Doctor is used in the Bible:

                              Luke 2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
                              KJV

                              Luke 5:17 And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them.
                              KJV
                              The purpose of my posts are not to cause bicker or division, but to show truth from the scripture for edifying of the soul. It does not matter what we think, it is what God's Word says that matters.

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