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  • Originally posted by Nachshon View Post
    Elijah knew the laws of tumah and washing with the waters from the red heifer. He was a prophet, you know.


    What? So what? Prayer suffices while the temple doesn't exist. What don't you get?
    How are you being cleaned while you continue to sin willfully, Heb 10:26? You keep evading this...
    This site disproves your teachers.
    http://www.isaiah53.com/main/forum/viewtopic.php?t=993
    If prayer and repentance alone did the trick, then why the rush to rebuild the Temple after the exile? Was this a sign that Israel recognized that sacrifices were required for atonement? Clearly Israel knew that there could be no atonement otherwise.

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    • Originally posted by Tanachreader View Post
      This site disproves your teachers.
      http://www.isaiah53.com/main/forum/viewtopic.php?t=993
      If prayer and repentance alone did the trick, then why the rush to rebuild the Temple after the exile? Was this a sign that Israel recognized that sacrifices were required for atonement? Clearly Israel knew that there could be no atonement otherwise.
      Is blood atonement required for every sin? No. Does blood atonement absolve a wilfull sinner with a corrupt heart intent on continuing to sin? No. Clearly the Tanakh is clear on this.

      You haven't explained how you get atonement given Heb 10:26. You're evading again.

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      • The law was fulfilled by Jesus. Those many many years Israel lived were duplicated in the short 33 years Jesus had.
        If you read about the 33 years of Jesus His life is very much Israel from Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, David, Jonah, many other Prophets, Moses.
        As it happened to Israel so did it happen to Jesus the Messiah.
        As the King of Israel Jesus went through what all Israel went through but was obedient as KING. Israel's King experience everything His people experienced. And he took their sufferings, their diseases and even their sins upon Himself. Can anyone have a greater KING, yet some did not recognize their KING. That is a King who Loves!
        The temptations Israel went through, Jesus went through and defeated.

        1. Israel called the first born son of God, so is Jesus the True Son of God who came down from Heaven.
        2. As Pharoah slew the first born of the Hebrews to try and kill the future deliverer Moses so did Herod slay the babies in Bethlehem to try and kill God's Messiah the deliverer.
        3. As Israel went into Egypt in infantcy so did Jesus.
        4. As Israel as a young son was called out of Egypt so was Jesus as a young Son.
        5. As Israel spent 40 years in the wilderness so Jesus spent 40 days in the wilderness. When He fights off the devil in the wilderness He quotes from the book of Deut. the book where the children of Israel wandered in the wilderness.
        6. As Israel passed through the baptismal waters coming out of Egypt, so was Jesus baptised in the waters and delcared God's Son.
        7. As Israel went up to the side of the Mountain to hear God speak His Law so did Jesus speak, teach His disciples from the side of the Mount.
        8. As Moses and the 70 Elders went up to listen and fellowship with God, ate with God. So did Jesus speak and feed the Israelites with a few Fish and loaves.
        9. As Moses was sent off and not recognized as Israel's deliverer the first time then came back so was Jesus who will also come back to rescue Israel at the end of Jacob's trouble. Jacobs trouble was to wrestle with God in darkness and he got hurt. After he got hurt He acknowleded who He wrestled with was God. He was named ISRAEL.
        10. As it happened with David Saul not willing to give up his seat to David the same happened with Jesus.
        11. Moses raised his staff and GOD'S breath divided the waters, Jesus spoke and the waters obeyed.
        12. Joseph sold by his brethern, Jesus betrayed for money.
        THIS CAN GO ON AND ON!
        IN 33 YEARS OF THE MESSIAH,
        JESUS WAS ISRAEL,
        JESUS WAS THE DELIVERER AND HEALER,
        JESUS WAS ISRAEL'S SUFFERING,
        JESUS WAS ISRAEL'S KING OBEDIENT TO THE FATHER UNTO DEATH
        JESUS WAS GOD WITH ISRAEL, HE TAUGHT, FED, CHASTISED, HEALED, SHEPHERD
        JESUS WAS ISRAEL'S ATONEMENT, THE SACRIFICE

        TRULY THE KING, MESSIAH OF ALL


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        • Originally posted by Guest View Post
          You're right. I don't acknowledge Je-sus as anything. So, what's your point? Starting from Gen 1:1 bereshit bara elokim, singular Go-d creating.
          Your superstitious spelling mutilation of "Jesus", and of "God" indicates that you may well acknowledge Jesus as more that you would dream of admitting.

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