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  • #31
    Originally posted by Theo1689 View Post
    That's all Mormons are able to do... Attack the beliefs of others. And they call US "anti's"
    Is your claim this site is not to attack the belief of the LDS?

    Theo--your claim is the pot calling the kettle black, IMO. Who here is exalting the LDS? The majority of the posts consists of plain ole frontal attacks on LDS beliefs, for the main--when referring to the critics.

    A challenge to the beliefs pawned here would be be no harder than posting Biblical NT scriptures:

    Revelation 22:14--- King James Version (KJV)
    14 Blessed are they thatdo his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dianaiad View Post

      When someone actually pays attention and acknowledges that THERE IS A PROBLEM and the things I am telling you about what happens in here ARE TRUE, then it will end.

      <SNIP>

      Deal with it.
      What the others do here CANNOT BE FIXED BY YOU

      But if and when you break the rules of the forum, then you can blame no one other than the one whom you see in the mirror.

      Again, it seems to me that you are taking unto yourself the history of the Mormons, and only seeing what you WANT to see in the process. For example it is a FACT that while the Christians are sanctioned, and suspended for their infractions, I see an estimated ratio iof 5:1 in the Mormon infractions and suspensions than I do to the LDS infractions and suspensions. Do not quibble about the exactness of the estimate; most likely it is less.

      However there is no objective poster who cannot say that the Christians get far less attention from the mods as do the Mormons. So why the whining?.
      Last edited by CARM Admin; 03-09-18, 03:45 PM. Reason: edit/post moved to whining where quote placed/to all posters/ do not discuss moderation on the forums
      MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

      1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

      2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

      3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

      4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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      • #33
        Originally posted by dianaiad View Post

        edit
        We have nothing to do with where your posts get sent. Take it up with admin..
        Last edited by CARM Admin; 03-09-18, 03:46 PM. Reason: edit/post moved to whining where quote placed/to all posters/ do not discuss moderation on the forums
        ~ There is life after mormonism, and it's good! Just stay close to Christ.
        ~ You can't follow Christ and false prophets at the same time.
        ~ "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28

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        • #34
          Originally posted by john t View Post

          What the others do here CANNOT BE FIXED BY YOU

          But if and when you break the rules of the forum, then you can blame no one other than the one whom you see in the mirror.

          Again, it seems to me that you are taking unto yourself the history of the Mormons, and only seeing what you WANT to see in the process. For example it is a FACT that while the Christians are sanctioned, and suspended for their infractions, I see an estimated ratio iof 5:1 in the Mormon infractions and suspensions than I do to the LDS infractions and suspensions. Do not quibble about the exactness of the estimate; most likely it is less.

          However there is no objective poster who cannot say that the Christians get far less attention from the mods as do the Mormons. So why the whining?
          You have just said that Mormons are sanctioned five times more often than 'Christians.'

          How is that not objective evidence that "Christians' get less attention?

          C'mon, prove it. Go back through the last two or three weeks and count to see whose posts are edited out....

          And what sort of language insults are LEFT IN.

          THEN tell me. You just threw out a number and now you need to prove it. Count it up. Show us.

          I WILL say this:

          We are only allowed to flag two posts per day. There are more evangelical Christians posting to the board than there are Mormons. Therefore it is obvious that even if the Christians didn't push the envelope and flag more than one post per day, there would be more flags against Mormons because there are more people to flag them. That's not a moral/ethical problem, but a technical one.

          Moderators are, I'm sure (I know from experience) generally going to react to flags rather than actively go hunt for offensive posts, and people being people, they are going to give more 'slack' to those whose positions they agree with. That's just being human, too.

          However, NONE of you see the problem with being sanctioned over calling someone an 'anti,' (meaning you don't like us...what else is new?) and being accused of lying, torturing babies, performing satanic rituals in our Temples, seeking world domination....oh, forget the list.

          but you made the claim. You get to look up and count. You ARE in for a surprise.
          Cet animal est très méchant,
          Quand on l'attaque il se défend.

          Translation: "This animal is very bad; when you attack it, it defends itself."

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          • #35
            Originally posted by john t View Post
            What the others do here CANNOT BE FIXED BY YOU

            But if and when you break the rules of the forum, then you can blame no one other than the one whom you see in the mirror.

            Again, it seems to me that you are taking unto yourself the history of the Mormons, and only seeing what you WANT to see in the process. For example it is a FACT that while the Christians are sanctioned, and suspended for their infractions, I see an estimated ratio iof 5:1 in the Mormon infractions and suspensions than I do to the LDS infractions and suspensions. Do not quibble about the exactness of the estimate; most likely it is less.

            However there is no objective poster who cannot say that the Christians get far less attention from the mods as do the Mormons. So why the whining?
            Originally posted by dianaiad View Post
            You have just said that Mormons are sanctioned five times more often than 'Christians.'
            <SNIP for whiniing>
            but you made the claim. You get to look up and count. You ARE in for a surprise.
            This is exactly what happens when posters only skim through the post, and do not read what I made bold red for emphasis in the second post of what you objected to.
            MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

            1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

            2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

            3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

            4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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            • #36
              Originally posted by dianaiad View Post

              You have just said that Mormons are sanctioned five times more often than 'Christians.'

              How is that not objective evidence that "Christians' get less attention?

              C'mon, prove it. Go back through the last two or three weeks and count to see whose posts are edited out....

              And what sort of language insults are LEFT IN.

              THEN tell me. You just threw out a number and now you need to prove it. Count it up. Show us.

              I WILL say this:

              We are only allowed to flag two posts per day. There are more evangelical Christians posting to the board than there are Mormons. Therefore it is obvious that even if the Christians didn't push the envelope and flag more than one post per day, there would be more flags against Mormons because there are more people to flag them. That's not a moral/ethical problem, but a technical one.

              Moderators are, I'm sure (I know from experience) generally going to react to flags rather than actively go hunt for offensive posts, and people being people, they are going to give more 'slack' to those whose positions they agree with. That's just being human, too.

              However, NONE of you see the problem with being sanctioned over calling someone an 'anti,' (meaning you don't like us...what else is new?) and being accused of lying, torturing babies, performing satanic rituals in our Temples, seeking world domination....oh, forget the list.

              but you made the claim. You get to look up and count. You ARE in for a surprise.
              Why are you on this site, if you think moderation is so biased? If you think Mormons are being attacked so much? Persecuted so much?

              I have seen Christians on thecMormon board have posts deleted, and seen infractions given, in the EDIT box underneath. I have seen Christian posters get suspended--just look under the poster's name on the left side of the page, to see who is suspended. One Christian is suspended now.

              I put links down to several pages that show where Mormon posts got deleted for breaking the rules. Did you miss those l8nks? It is on this forum. I can repost them for you, if you missed them.

              But if Mormons get infractions and suspended more often on the boards than Christians--maybe it is because they break the rules more often than the Christians do! Did THAT ever occur to you?
              "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
              "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
              "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
              "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
              "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DANNO
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                What on earth are you talking about? What does this have to do with what we were whining about? And my husband is NOT a 7th Day Adventist minister!
                Last edited by CARM Admin; 03-25-18, 10:42 AM. Reason: Rule violation
                "I am tired of being treated like a mushroom--they keep me in the dark and feed me manure!" (reasons why a Mormon was leaving the LDS church)
                "What people don't realize is how much religion costs. They think faith is a big electric blanket, when of course, it is the cross."--Flannery O'Connor
                "I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran--NOT REFORMED/CALVINIST. PLEASE learn the difference."
                "The truth may hurt for a little while, but a lie hurts forever."--anonymous
                "If Jesus isn't THE WAY, then there is nothing else."--Bob

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