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  • The RIght Prayer Partner

    (1) Sometimes people aren't healed because the right faith-filled person did not prayer for the answer to the need in question. Anglican mystic, Agnes Sanford, has written several books on prayer and spirituality. In her classic, "The Healing Light," she tells the story of her dying baby grandson. Doctors had doomed the baby to imminent death. She was caring for the boy and organized prayer vigils to pray for healing--to no effect. She prayed constantly for healing without success. Then one day, a young first-year Bible school student dropped by, saying, "I heard you have a dying baby here and I've come to pray for his healing." Agnes said she felt indignant at his presumption. Didn't he realize that she was an expert on prayer and that the room was prayer-saturated? The arrogance of this inexperienced young man! But she couldn't bring herself to deny his request; so she grudgingly complied. She watched as he picked up the baby with joy radiating from his face as he lovingly prayed for the boy's recovery. She saw the baby gloriously healed before her very eyes, and was properly humbled by the realization that this young man was the right person at that time to serve as God's instrument of healing.
    She was too ego-invested and too agitated to be God's instrument of healing in this case, and the Bible school student's calm divinely instilled confidence was exactly what God needed to channel full healing. Such anecdotes could be multiplied. So stay tuned.

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    (2) Dave is in our small prayer group, He suffered from a massive blood clot that extended from his foot to his waist. Doctors expressed the hope that this clot would eventually calcify, removing the risk to his heart. Dave and his wife Patty's prayers did nothing to change his condition. Then one day they ate at *********, a restaurant I can see from my residence. An unknown young couple approached their table, asking, "I hope you don't mind my asking, but do you have a serious physical condition that needs prayer?" Dave was initially taken aback at this intrusion, especially with other customers overhearing the question. Though a tad embarrassed, he told them about the massive clot. They nodded relief, and felt that their "word of knowledge" they had clairvoyantly received was confirmed. Then the couple asked if Dave wanted prayer for his condition. He consented. Dave hoped they would pray over him quietly; so he was again taken aback, when they prayed loudly for his healing. It turns out the couple were young missionaries about to leave for some African country. Subsequent x-rays confirmed that Dave was completely healed. Dave realizes he would never have been healed unless God brought the right prayer partners. Nor would he have been healed if his pride prompted him to decline their request to pray for him. So this healing provides a great parallel to Agnes's dilemma at the presumptuous Bible school student's request.

    After the couple returned from their African missionary trip, I tracked the man, Mark, down and invited him and his wife to lunch at Maverick's. I learned that Mark had recently been baptized in the Holy Spirit and was so overjoyed that he found it hard to stop speaking in tongues for a considerable period of time. His Spirit baptism allowed him to have visions of angels who proved to be excellent mediators of "the word of knowledge" for his healing ministry.

    The faith lessons? (1) As in Agnes's case, true humility is a great asset to effective faith. (2) Real faith takes risks, risks I would typically lack the confidence to take. (2) I would have been more polite and prayed quietly--and my prayer would have had no effect. I would have been hedging my bets to prevent myself from looking really bad! I later learned that gifted faith healers do not pray softly in situations like that, because they want the healings to serve as a witness to God's power. (3) The younger generation is jumping out of the windows of mainline churches, because these churches are "holding to the outward form of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid them (2 Timothy 3:5)!" Thus, Paul says of his rivals: "I will find out not the talk of these arrogant people, but their power. For the kingdom of God depends not on talk, but on power. (1 Corinthians 4:19-20)."

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      Powerful
      Cynthia

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      • #4
        (3) When I was a pastor in NY state, Austin was a quiet teenager who avoided my many discussions on paranormal incidents with his parents. What we didn't know was that Austin had become addicted to certain prescription drugs and had fathered a child out of wedlock. Then one day, he accepted his friends' dare to go see the movie Paranormal. Austin was not the horror movie type and it frightened him badly. Soon thereafter, he began to see lights in his closet in his blackened room. He tried to ignore this, but soon psychokinetic experiences began to terrorize him. E.g. His blankets would suddenly be ripped off his bed by an unseen hand. Finally, in desperation he confessed all to his parents. They invited 2 charismatic Christians who supposedly specialized in deliverance ministry to bless their house and exorcise any demonic presence. This had no effect and the paranormal manifestations continued relentlessly. Then in desperation, the parents called the Catholic church. This step was hard for them because they were not pro-Catholic by any means. The bishop sent a gentle Nigerian priest who, with no histrionics, quietly took command of the nasty spirit presence and successfully exorcised the house. There were no more paranormal manifestations. This Nigerian apparently had had prior experience with African witch doctors (shamans). I learned about this and met Austin's baby son, when I was asked to return to New York state to perform the wedding ceremony for Austin's brother. I like to share this story with anti-Catholic charismatics who seem to think they have a monopoly on deliverance ministry. Again, the right prayer partner proved decisive.

        I am known around here as a debunker of alleged possession cases, because I have had to deal with the harm done by wannabe exorcists who treat ordinary psychopathology and mental illness as cases of possession. Real possession cases are rare and every step must first be taken to find alternative explanations of the aberrant behavior and phenomena. Still, my family has encountered and dealt with a couple of dramatic possession cases in a convincing way, but only a couple in my lifetime. Again, the right prayer partner was essential.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Berserk View Post
          (3) When I was a pastor in NY state, Austin was a quiet teenager who avoided my many discussions on paranormal incidents with his parents. What we didn't know was that Austin had become addicted to certain prescription drugs and had fathered a child out of wedlock. Then one day, he accepted his friends' dare to go see the movie Paranormal. Austin was not the horror movie type and it frightened him badly. Soon thereafter, he began to see lights in his closet in his blackened room. He tried to ignore this, but soon psychokinetic experiences began to terrorize him. E.g. His blankets would suddenly be ripped off his bed by an unseen hand. Finally, in desperation he confessed all to his parents. They invited 2 charismatic Christians who supposedly specialized in deliverance ministry to bless their house and exorcise any demonic presence. This had no effect and the paranormal manifestations continued relentlessly. Then in desperation, the parents called the Catholic church. This step was hard for them because they were not pro-Catholic by any means. The bishop sent a gentle Nigerian priest who, with no histrionics, quietly took command of the nasty spirit presence and successfully exorcised the house. There were no more paranormal manifestations. This Nigerian apparently had had prior experience with African witch doctors (shamans). I learned about this and met Austin's baby son, when I was asked to return to New York state to perform the wedding ceremony for Austin's brother. I like to share this story with anti-Catholic charismatics who seem to think they have a monopoly on deliverance ministry. Again, the right prayer partner proved decisive.


          I as an anti-Catholic would like to share the gospel with you.

          “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’

          And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
          (Matthew 7:21-23)

          Casting out demons in the name of Jesus
          in no way validates the beliefs of charismatic Catholics,
          who refuse to repent
          of being mastered by Frankie and elevating Mary.



          Jesus correctly prophesied that Catholic deceivers would say:
          ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ (Matthew 24:26)

          That referred to their false Christ
          in those storage chambers,
          which are known as TABERNACLES

          Do a word study on 'inner rooms' and take note that is plural.


          the emphasis is upon the strictly private location of the inner room.
          [Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996)]


          So private that no one else can possibly fit.

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            Conqueror: "I as an anti-Catholic would like to share the gospel with you."

            Well, at least you admit to your bigotry. As a Protestant Theology profess at a Catholic University for 12 years, I can attest that their grasp of the Gospel is superior to yours. It's interesting that Catholics have a higher view of biblical inspiration than you do. For example, you are quick to disparage Luke.
            Conqueror: “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
            And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
            (Matthew 7:21-23) Casting out demons in the name of Jesus
            in no way validates the beliefs of charismatic Catholics,""

            You must learn to read. I never said that this Catholic priest was a charismatic.
            You don't understand the text you quote. Elswhere in Matthew Jesus teaches that Satan does not cast out Satan (12:26) and that true exorcisms can only be performed through the power of the Holy Spirit (12:28). So that godly Nigerian exorcist must have succeeded in his exorcism through the Holy Spirit.
            Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus is talking about backslidden believers, not about Catholics.
            Last edited by Berserk; 06-04-18, 05:11 PM.

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              I as an anti-Catholic would like to share the gospel with you.

              “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’

              And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
              (Matthew 7:21-23)

              Casting out demons in the name of Jesus
              in no way validates the beliefs of charismatic Catholics,
              who refuse to repent
              of being mastered by Frankie and elevating Mary.




              Originally posted by Berserk View Post

              You don't understand the text you quote. Elswhere in Matthew Jesus teaches that Satan does not cast out Satan (12:26) and that true exorcisms can only be performed through the power of the Holy Spirit (12:28). So that godly Nigerian exorcist must have succeeded in his exorcism through the Holy Spirit.
              Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus is talking about backslidden believers, not about Catholics.

              Casting out demons in the name of Jesus (Mat 7:21)
              and by the power of the Holy Spirit are two different concepts (Mat 12:28).

              Those in Matthew 7 were devoid of the Holy Spirit,
              as Jesus never knew them.


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