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    QUOTE: "Now, the man who built a church of an estimated 10,000 people isn’t even attending an organized church. Instead, he surfs the waves near Hollywood and has teamed up with the goddess of pop theology, Oprah Winfrey.

    “The Rob Bell Show” will premiere Dec. 21 on the Oprah Winfrey Network, a one-hour show that features Bell and is co-produced by him. He also recently toured the country with Winfrey on a “Life You Want Weekend.”

    Bell says he would conduct a same-sex ceremony, and he encourages churches to welcome gay members and allow them to be ordained.

    “This is a justice issue,” Bell said. “We believe people should not be denied the right to have someone to journey with.”

    Books & Culture, a journal published by Christianity Today, mocked Bell’s latest work, inventing a fake publishing executive to push the man behind the Gospel of Zimzum.

    “He won’t talk about the cross, or sin, or the idea that marriage represents Jesus and his bride or God and Israel. So he’s not a Bible Christian, but really a Christian, then. Our new kind of Christian. Our evogelical,” the piece said.

    And Florida pastor Dave Harvey, reviewing “Zimzum” for The Gospel Coalition, a central hub of the Reformed evangelical movement, criticized Bell for quoting the Bible only three times in the book: “If Christianity were outlawed and a mob amassed to burn Christian books, ‘The Zimzum of Love’ would not be at risk.”

    Bell co-authored “Zimzum” with his wife, Kristen, and he said “she’s generally three steps ahead of me” in his evolution.

    Now resettled near Los Angeles, the couple no longer belongs to a traditional church. “We have a little tribe of friends,” Bell said. “We have a group that we are journeying with. There’s no building. We’re churching all the time. It’s more of a verb for us.”

    Many evangelicals are suspicious of Oprah, leery that she represents what many see as the worst of self-help spirituality. Bell, not surprisingly, disagrees once again.

    “She has taught me more about what Jesus has for all of us, and what kind of life Jesus wants us to live, more than almost anybody in my life,” Bell said.

    “Is she a Christian? That word has so much baggage, I wouldn’t want to answer for someone. When Jesus talks about the full divine life, you think, this is what he’s talking about.” end of quote

    Between Rob Bell and Mark Driscoll it sounds like the Emerging Church is shrinking since both are gone from their churches. The ones that are left are worldly and preach a new gospel. I believe the Holy Spirit has left many of those churches. If they wanted to reach the un-churched they have accomplished their goals and entertainment is the key to their preaching, not the Gospel.
    Romans 1:17, For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written:"The righteous will live by faith.

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    Well, let's not lump Bell in with Driscoll. Driscoll had his faults, but he didn't preach heresy like Bell. Bell is on his own, "heresy planet", if you will.

    But, with that said....who didn't see this coming? I sure did! I'm sure OWN will be at the forefront of ushering in the anti-Christ, the Beast, and all of the new and kewel technology to make it all run to perfection!

    Originally posted by Beloved View Post
    QUOTE: "Now, the man who built a church of an estimated 10,000 people isn’t even attending an organized church. Instead, he surfs the waves near Hollywood and has teamed up with the goddess of pop theology, Oprah Winfrey.

    “The Rob Bell Show” will premiere Dec. 21 on the Oprah Winfrey Network, a one-hour show that features Bell and is co-produced by him. He also recently toured the country with Winfrey on a “Life You Want Weekend.”

    Bell says he would conduct a same-sex ceremony, and he encourages churches to welcome gay members and allow them to be ordained.

    “This is a justice issue,” Bell said. “We believe people should not be denied the right to have someone to journey with.”

    Books & Culture, a journal published by Christianity Today, mocked Bell’s latest work, inventing a fake publishing executive to push the man behind the Gospel of Zimzum.

    “He won’t talk about the cross, or sin, or the idea that marriage represents Jesus and his bride or God and Israel. So he’s not a Bible Christian, but really a Christian, then. Our new kind of Christian. Our evogelical,” the piece said.

    And Florida pastor Dave Harvey, reviewing “Zimzum” for The Gospel Coalition, a central hub of the Reformed evangelical movement, criticized Bell for quoting the Bible only three times in the book: “If Christianity were outlawed and a mob amassed to burn Christian books, ‘The Zimzum of Love’ would not be at risk.”

    Bell co-authored “Zimzum” with his wife, Kristen, and he said “she’s generally three steps ahead of me” in his evolution.

    Now resettled near Los Angeles, the couple no longer belongs to a traditional church. “We have a little tribe of friends,” Bell said. “We have a group that we are journeying with. There’s no building. We’re churching all the time. It’s more of a verb for us.”

    Many evangelicals are suspicious of Oprah, leery that she represents what many see as the worst of self-help spirituality. Bell, not surprisingly, disagrees once again.

    “She has taught me more about what Jesus has for all of us, and what kind of life Jesus wants us to live, more than almost anybody in my life,” Bell said.

    “Is she a Christian? That word has so much baggage, I wouldn’t want to answer for someone. When Jesus talks about the full divine life, you think, this is what he’s talking about.” end of quote

    Between Rob Bell and Mark Driscoll it sounds like the Emerging Church is shrinking since both are gone from their churches. The ones that are left are worldly and preach a new gospel. I believe the Holy Spirit has left many of those churches. If they wanted to reach the un-churched they have accomplished their goals and entertainment is the key to their preaching, not the Gospel.
    Last edited by JesusFreakToo; 12-15-14, 01:54 PM.
    "I saw an angel in the marble and I carved until I set him free". ~~~Michelangelo

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    • #3
      Adrift....

      Originally posted by Beloved View Post
      QUOTE: "Now, the man who built a church of an estimated 10,000 people isn’t even attending an organized church. Instead, he surfs the waves near Hollywood and has teamed up with the goddess of pop theology, Oprah Winfrey.

      “The Rob Bell Show” will premiere Dec. 21 on the Oprah Winfrey Network, a one-hour show that features Bell and is co-produced by him. He also recently toured the country with Winfrey on a “Life You Want Weekend.”

      Bell says he would conduct a same-sex ceremony, and he encourages churches to welcome gay members and allow them to be ordained.

      “This is a justice issue,” Bell said. “We believe people should not be denied the right to have someone to journey with.”

      Books & Culture, a journal published by Christianity Today, mocked Bell’s latest work, inventing a fake publishing executive to push the man behind the Gospel of Zimzum.

      “He won’t talk about the cross, or sin, or the idea that marriage represents Jesus and his bride or God and Israel. So he’s not a Bible Christian, but really a Christian, then. Our new kind of Christian. Our evogelical,” the piece said.

      And Florida pastor Dave Harvey, reviewing “Zimzum” for The Gospel Coalition, a central hub of the Reformed evangelical movement, criticized Bell for quoting the Bible only three times in the book: “If Christianity were outlawed and a mob amassed to burn Christian books, ‘The Zimzum of Love’ would not be at risk.”

      Bell co-authored “Zimzum” with his wife, Kristen, and he said “she’s generally three steps ahead of me” in his evolution.

      Now resettled near Los Angeles, the couple no longer belongs to a traditional church. “We have a little tribe of friends,” Bell said. “We have a group that we are journeying with. There’s no building. We’re churching all the time. It’s more of a verb for us.”

      Many evangelicals are suspicious of Oprah, leery that she represents what many see as the worst of self-help spirituality. Bell, not surprisingly, disagrees once again.

      “She has taught me more about what Jesus has for all of us, and what kind of life Jesus wants us to live, more than almost anybody in my life,” Bell said.

      “Is she a Christian? That word has so much baggage, I wouldn’t want to answer for someone. When Jesus talks about the full divine life, you think, this is what he’s talking about.” end of quote

      Between Rob Bell and Mark Driscoll it sounds like the Emerging Church is shrinking since both are gone from their churches. The ones that are left are worldly and preach a new gospel. I believe the Holy Spirit has left many of those churches. If they wanted to reach the un-churched they have accomplished their goals and entertainment is the key to their preaching, not the Gospel.
      Both Bell and Winfrey are New Age, not Christian. It's really sad to see such massive influence, especially when a so-called "Christian" pastor sends the ship so dramatically off course.

      Winfrey has made it a point to let the world know she was raised Baptist, but has seen the light. This is the epitome of Satan posing as such an angel, imo.

      And the "emerging" church is bedazzled.
      "For the eyes of the LORD move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His...." 2 Chronicles 16:9 NASB

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      • #4
        It is another example of western secularism courting any religious people who can make a religion look like it has atheist/secular values.
        Last edited by Galatians96; 01-12-15, 04:17 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Beloved View Post
          QUOTE:


          Bell co-authored “Zimzum” with his wife, Kristen, and he said “she’s generally three steps ahead of me” in his evolution.
          It is a story somewhat like Solomon. At first there was great wisdom but then his "marriage" to many others led him astray and he never saw it coming. Hopefully, someday he will find his way back. He is a capable writer and a gifted communicator but then again so is Richard Dawkins. Let's pray for Rob, he certainly has gone astray.

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          • #6
            Rob Bell is a heretic

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            • #7
              Yes indeed bell and Driscoll are very different.


              Originally posted by JesusFreakToo View Post
              Well, let's not lump Bell in with Driscoll. Driscoll had his faults, but he didn't preach heresy like Bell. Bell is on his own, "heresy planet", if you will.

              But, with that said....who didn't see this coming? I sure did! I'm sure OWN will be at the forefront of ushering in the anti-Christ, the Beast, and all of the new and kewel technology to make it all run to perfection!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Galatians96 View Post
                It is another example of western secularism courting any religious people who can make a religion look like it has atheist/secular values.
                Explain this

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JesusFreakToo View Post
                  Well, let's not lump Bell in with Driscoll. Driscoll had his faults, but he didn't preach heresy like Bell. Bell is on his own, "heresy planet", if you will.
                  Couldn't agree more!

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                  • #10
                    The alarm bells (no pun intended) should ring with the book 'Love wins' Love has won. It cant win when it has already won.
                    ie God so loved the world that He gave His only son ...
                    1 John 4:10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

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