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  • The refilling of archetypes

    In this thread I want to develop some concepts.

    About how the soul understands Images and concepts.


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    So here we have several archetypes.

    We have: garden, man, wall, and pillar or stake (trunk).

    The image arranges these a certain way.

    Such that the wall seems endless, the man quite small.
    The tree is quite uniform, clipped.

    The man and the trunks are the same color.

    The garden is mostly just a field. And the wall provides a direction. Although it appears that between the trees there is s place to walk. The suggestion is that the other side is very similar. The grass continues slightly to the other side of the trees.

    The image is detached in color (emotion). the man is far away. The wall overtakes the horizon, presents a barrier and at the same time a feeling of continuing on into the horizon. The trees are not that treelike. They have been clipped and no leaves are visible. The line of the tree seems to be its context. As a hedge.

  • #2
    Here is another pic.

    In this pic, we now have the same element
    of a Hedge. But here the hedge and the human being
    are more on scale. The hedge functions still to direct a line
    of movement, but the feeling is not infinite space towards
    a horizon, as in the previous one.


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    • #3
      Images and archetypes are how the soul understands.
      and these can be quite confused. I include words under the
      concept of image or archetype. But using pics for
      this post makes it easier to Explain and 'see'.

      The way words are reaaranged, affects the meaning. Just as in pictures, the way the archetypes appear, the elements, affects, how we feel about or from the image.
      Last edited by e v e; 08-01-17, 09:49 PM.

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      • #4
        Here we have a shovel. The handle of which I compare to the tree trunks of the first pic. The first pic has grass and trunks, which implies there is something below.

        The shovel, relates visually as a stake or pillar to the trunks.

        Here it appears in a very plain utilitarian shopping pic.

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        • #5
          The shovels relation to the first pic is only 'uprightness' or standing up
          in terms of Shape.

          Here we have that shape, but as steps. In the first pic we have steps too, a path for the eye made by the trunks and wall.

          In this pic however the path archetype cuts through a garden and implies a cozier access more in scale with a human being. And a more intimate view.

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          • #6
            In this pic we have the pillar concept again. But now it is enclosed by the maze.

            Whats also different here is the way that everything centers on the gazebo. Whereas the first pic lacks a place to rest ones head. And the second pic makes alice's presence and movement seem to be the center.

            Here we have no human being and the picture is slightly Colder emotionally than the one with steps...since the stepped implied warmth and invitation. But this pic implies order. Something it shares with the very first picture.
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              here in this pic we have a wall. Similar to the wall in the first picture. But now, the wall is iron shields and the trunks are spears instead.

              There is a more agressive feel to the picture. And it shares a more claustrophobic feeling with the second picture.

              Here men themselves 'are the trees'.

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              • #8
                Another Alice pic. In this one the wall forms a path...but the path is more an official one, leading to the queen.

                The cards are guards and the spears are both defensive and to display authority. Note the shovel shape of the spears. The trees are but trunks upside down. The ground is inverted since the
                fundament is now the queen and all the guards lead to her.

                Yes, I know the pics are unrelated. But if you were shown them and asked to explain them together, this would be my explanation so far.

                In this picture there is only one path. Just as in the First pic or the first phalanx pic as well. It's not the steps going through a garden. And there's not much leeway as to where to go since it's closed. here there is no green, no nature. Just order and a phalanx. There is no war in this picture as in the previous phalanx, which still contains some nature. In this pic the men are but puppets of a queen.
                In the other the power center is not visible. Wiggle room is gone in this pic.
                Last edited by e v e; 08-01-17, 09:54 PM.

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                  Here was have a phalanx, our shovel, pillar, trunk. But its a Spear.

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                  • #10
                    Yes I have a point and soon will make it.

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                    • #11
                      In the unicorn photo the spear is on the animals head. And the wall is now a fence.

                      This is how we see and think. By combinations of things presented to us. In all the pics we saw common elements. Yet the way they were presented and arranged, gave a different emotional tone, a different meaning.

                      This is what hat happens with words too. And people do this
                      in discussing God. They twist God and the Christian view in a different arrangement. Except the pics I showed were very obvious. But the rearranging of archetypes in the psyche and the substituting of elements can be very very subtle.

                      I had some other pictures but I can stop here. The point is that the straw man is a rearranged picture, but in words. When someone creates a false picture of God, or of spiritual reality to twist things and to confuse others but inserting things or taking things out or rearranging things subtly so that logically they win an argument.

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                      • #12
                        The unicorn pic would not upload. It's of a captive unicorn in a tapestry in Paris, within a fenced enclosure.

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                        • #13
                          New agers do this and Gnostics. They come up with a highly paganized Christ. All the elements are there. Christ, a cross. But every meaning is rearranged into a lie.
                          Last edited by e v e; 08-01-17, 09:55 PM.

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                          • #14
                            http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/467642

                            link to unicorn pic.

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                            • #15
                              So what you are doing is essentially taking these verses and parables and making pictures that echo what Romans 1:20 says, correct?

                              Matthew 7: 24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
                              25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
                              26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand

                              Romans 1: 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
                              21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
                              22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles

                              1 Corinthians 1:25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

                              2 Corinthians 4:. 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing.
                              4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

                              Would that be a correct assessment of your thought process?
                              MY FOUR APOLOGETIC AXIOMS

                              1. Any verse ripped from its context is a pretext 100% of the time

                              2. We attack lies so others will see the truth; that is proof of our love for all cultists, not our hatred .

                              3. Inconsistency is a tiny hobgoblin haunting every cult

                              4. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire







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