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  • Watch your confession, brother.

    I really got tired of people telling me;

    Don't confess that!
    Watch what you say, brother!
    Don't say that you'll get it!
    You create what you say, both negative and positive.

    ...And other such things. Seemed like while I was in wofism folks where fixated on what others were saying, but not so much their own words. Even telling someone such a thing as above, reveals a negative confession from them. Why didn't they say something positive instead of following people and "rebuking" each other in such a negative way. The wofist wasn't aware of the hypocrisy such a doctrine as the Confession teachings had taught them. Instead, the Confession doctrine had created a sense of superiority in them, as though they knew the thoughts and intents of every word someone speaks.

    I am so glad that YHWH has delivered me from such a misfortunate teaching of bondage and pride.
    ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

  • #2
    Originally posted by Tallen View Post
    I really got tired of people telling me;

    Don't confess that!
    Watch what you say, brother!
    Don't say that you'll get it!
    You create what you say, both negative and positive.

    ...And other such things. Seemed like while I was in wofism folks where fixated on what others were saying, but not so much their own words. Even telling someone such a thing as above, reveals a negative confession from them. Why didn't they say something positive instead of following people and "rebuking" each other in such a negative way. The wofist wasn't aware of the hypocrisy such a doctrine as the Confession teachings had taught them. Instead, the Confession doctrine had created a sense of superiority in them, as though they knew the thoughts and intents of every word someone speaks.

    I am so glad that YHWH has delivered me from such a misfortunate teaching of bondage and pride.
    That's actually all TRUE (except for the phony metaphysical twist they put on it) the mouth IS a 'window" into the heart, out of the fullness of which the mouth speaks.

    There IS unquestionably a "Social" power connected with what you say and you can ABSOLUTELY have a noticeable effect on your surroundings with your mouth.

    And the power of GOD'S words SPOKEN IN FAITH (Heb 11:1) is capable of tossing mountains (Mark 11:22-24), or Jesus is a liar.

    The problem with YOUR version of WoF, is that it was and often still is, all WoP (not Italians) i.e. "Word of Presumption" (the bottomless chasm in Bunyan's "valley of the shadow of death"). Presumption possess no power, and never will.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post


      And the power of GOD'S words SPOKEN IN FAITH (Heb 11:1) is capable of tossing mountains (Mark 11:22-24), or Jesus is a liar.

      .
      To bad they don,t believe the Word..

      Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by spokenword View Post
        To bad they don,t believe the Word..
        The problem isn't so much the WORD, but trying to appropriate FROM the "LOGOS" Word something that's NOT FOR YOU - based on presumption - and NOT in FAITH

        God's Word TO YOU is what FAITH is built on.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post
          God's Word TO YOU is what FAITH is built on.
          Exactly. And that Word is the written Bible, which is the basis of all He will ever tell you. Nothing He says will ever contradict scripture.

          ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spokenword View Post
            To bad they don,t believe the Word..
            Too bad you posted this as it has been shown over and over your lack of understanding basic scriptural teaching. I know it's hard when you tell us that you are influence by demons, but that is a fact.
            ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tallen View Post

              Too bad you posted this as it has been shown over and over your lack of understanding basic scriptural teaching. I know it's hard when you tell us that you are influence by demons, but that is a fact.
              You mean like right now as you are being used as a tool.(demon influence) And that is a fact!!!!
              Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tallen View Post
                Exactly. And that Word is the written Bible,
                However just picking a scripture and "Claiming it" for yourself is the very ESSENCE of Presumption.

                WHat I said was GOD'S WORD TO YOU specifically.

                The Bible says that everybody's a sinner. it's true - big deal.

                BUT - Holy Spirit Conviction of Sin says YOU PERSONALLY ARE A SINNER BOUND FOR HELL - that's quite another thing, and something that will be your FOUNDATION for Faith,

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post
                  BUT - Holy Spirit Conviction of Sin says YOU PERSONALLY ARE A SINNER BOUND FOR HELL - that's quite another thing, and something that will be your FOUNDATION for Faith,
                  And that is exactly what scripture teaches us. That is, that you personally are a sinner bound for Hell. The basis for faith is scripture. Solar Scrptura.
                  ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                    You mean like right now as you are being used as a tool.(demon influence) And that is a fact!!!!
                    Did you say that you were being influenced by demons, or not? I based my comment on your words that you posted in this forum.
                    ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tallen View Post
                      The basis for faith is scripture.
                      Agreed, but the faith for salvation is a Gift enabled by God, and His Word MADE PERSONAL to you. that's a LOT more that just intellectual assent to aquired knowledge.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                        Agreed, but the faith for salvation is a Gift enabled by God, and His Word MADE PERSONAL to you. that's a LOT more that just intellectual assent to aquired knowledge.
                        Well..., I would agree with that. YHWH saves us through faith. Not sure why you qualify it every time, though. The Apostle seems comfortable to just say that;

                        For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
                        Ephesians 2:8 KJV

                        Either your saved or not.
                        ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=Tallen;n5248929] Not sure why you qualify it every time, though.[quote]

                          Because of the ubiquitous "Word Games" about faith (what it is, what it isn't, whether it's the same as "belief" (intellectual assent + some related religious activity), what the definition of FAITH even is (Like "the Baptist Faith" which isn't a "faith" at all, but a theological system) - etc.

                          Either your saved or not.
                          True it's a pure dichotomy, You're IN or your OUT, and there's no middle ground.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

                            Because of the ubiquitous "Word Games" about faith (what it is, what it isn't, whether it's the same as "belief"
                            Faith is belief with fidelity. Simple as that.

                            If you have faith in YHWH, you will be faithful in your demonstrated continuing loyalty. This is true of any faith. If it doesn't meet this standard it is not faith.
                            ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tallen View Post

                              Faith is belief with fidelity. Simple as that.

                              If you have faith in YHWH, you will be faithful in your demonstrated continuing loyalty. This is true of any faith. If it doesn't meet this standard it is not faith.
                              Except, of course the Biblical definition of FAITH remains Heb 11:1.

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