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  • Does YHWH show favoritism

    It's was claimed in the forum that YHWH, in particular Jesus, doesn't show favoritism. I've heard this belief by many wof and believe it is common belief in wof. This thread is started for the sole purpose of having a civil, honest and scriptural discussion of whether or not this idea is supported biblically. Those that think that God does not favor some over others are welcome to start the discussion with their scripture and personal view of it.

    No linking to articles outside of the forum, please. And explain your thoughts in more than one cliche that offers no explanation.
    Last edited by Tallen; 06-12-18, 12:25 PM.
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    God's Word (Scripture) will convince me. YOUR argument is your own.

    I want to be so full of Jesus that if a mosquito bites me, he will fly away singing 'there's power in the blood. . .' (author unknown)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tallen View Post
      It's was claimed in the forum that YHWH, in particular Jesus, doesn't show favoritism. I've heard this belief by many wof and believe it is common belief in wof. This thread is started for the sole purpose of having a civil, honest and scriptural discussion of whether or not this idea is supported biblically. Those that think that God does not favor some over others are welcome to start the discussion with their scripture and personal view of it.

      No linking to articles outside of the forum, please. And explain your thoughts in more than one cliche that offers no explanation.
      From scripture (if my memory serves me) God does NOT show favoritism, but WHAT FAVORITISM IS, is another question. . . .

      God's Word (Scripture) will convince me. YOUR argument is your own.

      I want to be so full of Jesus that if a mosquito bites me, he will fly away singing 'there's power in the blood. . .' (author unknown)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tallen View Post
        It's was claimed in the forum that YHWH, in particular Jesus, doesn't show favoritism. I've heard this belief by many wof and believe it is common belief in wof. This thread is started for the sole purpose of having a civil, honest and scriptural discussion of whether or not this idea is supported biblically. Those that think that God does not favor some over others are welcome to start the discussion with their scripture and personal view of it.

        No linking to articles outside of the forum, please. And explain your thoughts in more than one cliche that offers no explanation.
        Romans 2:11 " For God shows no favoritism.(NIV) Either you believe Gods Word or you don't. Its that simple.
        Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by spokenword View Post
          Romans 2:11 " For God shows no favoritism.(NIV) Either you believe Gods Word or you don't. Its that simple.
          Why did Jesus spend much more recorded time with Peter, James, and John? Are there some people that you spend much more time with than others ? Why ?
          Phynerk
          " Getting a straight answer from a Word Of Faith'er is like nailing Jello to a wall." MRCPU

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Phynerk View Post

            Why did Jesus spend much more recorded time with Peter, James, and John? Are there some people that you spend much more time with than others ? Why ?
            Because they had a more intimate relationship with Jesus than any other.It was a heart condition called love. Jesus didn,t have any favorites.He loves all of his children equally.

            Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by spokenword View Post
              Because they had a more intimate relationship with Jesus than any other.It was a heart condition called love. Jesus didn,t have any favorites.He loves all of his children equally.
              Do you happen to have actual Scripture to back up these thoughts? Wouldn't a "more intimate" relationship by definition reveal a favorable connection with the Lord ?
              Phynerk
              " Getting a straight answer from a Word Of Faith'er is like nailing Jello to a wall." MRCPU

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tallen View Post
                It's was claimed in the forum that YHWH, in particular Jesus, doesn't show favoritism. I've heard this belief by many wof and believe it is common belief in wof. This thread is started for the sole purpose of having a civil, honest and scriptural discussion of whether or not this idea is supported biblically. Those that think that God does not favor some over others are welcome to start the discussion with their scripture and personal view of it.

                No linking to articles outside of the forum, please. And explain your thoughts in more than one cliche that offers no explanation.
                If the lord favored one over the other than what would be the point of believing in a deity like that?, may as well get a new god instead.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JagdPanther View Post

                  If the lord favored one over the other than what would be the point of believing in a deity like that?, may as well get a new god instead.
                  What kind of parents would we be if we favored one child over an other in our own families.It would be like Cain and Abel.

                  Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                    What kind of parents would we be if we favored one child over an other in our own families.It would be like Cain and Abel.
                    Yes that is true but favoritism does happen in families.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JagdPanther View Post

                      Yes that is true but favoritism does happen in families.
                      True but it shouldn,t happen. Its not Christlike.

                      Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                        Romans 2:11 " For God shows no favoritism.(NIV) Either you believe Gods Word or you don't. Its that simple.
                        Why did you pick the NIV to call the word of God? What makes you think that it is a better translation than the KJV or the ESV? Also, when this verse is put into context, it shows the exact opposite of what you want it to say. It's telling us that YHWH doesn't respect whether a person is a Jew or Gentile, that as long as the person is working for good, that YHWH gives glory, honor and peace to those doing such. In other words, He respects people that are doing good, whether Jew or Gentile, and in fact rewards them doing such. Does He respect and reward those that are working evil? Of course not.

                        Before you use a verse to prove a point look at the context.

                        But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
                        Romans 2:10-13

                        There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality. For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.
                        Romans 2:9-‬13 ESV

                        Read the above in context and ask yourself..., when does God show no partiality?
                        The answer is, He does not show partiality to people that are working good, whether Jew or Gentile.
                        Does this mean that He treats all people the same?
                        No, He judges the sinner by the law and they will perish by the law.
                        One group gets preference and favoritism, those doing good.
                        One group doesn't get preference and favoritism, those doing evil.

                        In other words, God does not favor the Jew over the Gentile. But He does favor the doers of the law over those who are sinners.

                        Hope that's helps explain the verse for you.
                        Last edited by Tallen; 06-12-18, 05:12 PM.
                        ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                          What kind of parents would we be if we favored one child over an other in our own families.It would be like Cain and Abel.
                          You're applying your human emotions to God, and expecting Him to abide by your sense of right and wrong. God doesnt work that way. Consider:

                          And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth: ) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
                          Romans 9:10*-‬13 KJV

                          YHWH favored Jacob over Esau..., even before either one had ever done a single thing. His purpose is greater than any human standard of right and wrong you try to impose on Him. YHWH is not a human, He is an all knowing immutable being who works things according to His desires and purpose.
                          Last edited by Tallen; 06-12-18, 05:57 PM.
                          ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JagdPanther View Post

                            If the lord favored one over the other than what would be the point of believing in a deity like that?, may as well get a new god instead.
                            Thats what I've been telling you for years..., the God you created in your mind and imaginations, is not the God of the scriptures. As soon as He doesn't fit your imaginations, and He is greater than the box you want to keep Him in..., you're ready to give up on Him.

                            It's a fact, and throughout scripture, God favors some over others.

                            For thou, Lord , wilt bless the righteous; with favour wilt thou compass him as with a shield.
                            Psalms 5:12 KJV
                            Last edited by Tallen; 06-12-18, 05:56 PM.
                            ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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                            • #15
                              If YHWH doesn't favor one over another, why does He have a bride? Any ol' woman would do, if He has no favorites. His bride is no different than any other woman, even a whore who is living a rebellious and unfaithful life. Does fit the biblical picture of His faithful bride who is wearing righteousness and has been prepared for Him.

                              Consider:

                              Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
                              Revelation 19:7*-‬9 KJV
                              ---> wof, insert your denial here. <---

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