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  • wof and Hebrews 11:1

    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
    Hebrews 11:1 KJVA
    ---> Insert your denial here. <---

  • #2
    Originally posted by Tallen View Post
    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
    Hebrews 11:1 KJVA
    Without Faith its impossible to please God.Still using the KJVA I see. Invest in a New Translation that doesn,t contain errors.
    Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tallen View Post
      Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
      Hebrews 11:1 KJVA
      Just for reference, what does a non-WoF think this means?
      Allen (Unless noted otherwise, Bible quotations are from the 1984 edition of the NIV)

      Faith--Sees the invisible, believes the incredible, and receives the impossible.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by AlFin View Post

        Just for reference, what does a non-WoF think this means?
        Waiting for Tallen,s response to these tough questions!!!
        Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by spokenword View Post
          Without Faith its impossible to please God.Still using the KJVA I see. Invest in a New Translation that doesn,t contain errors.
          What errors do you find in the KJV that up sets you?
          ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AlFin View Post

            Just for reference, what does a non-WoF think this means?
            What does that matter to your wofist beliefs?
            ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tallen View Post

              What does that matter to your wofist beliefs?
              Heb 11:1-2

              1 NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses].

              2 For by [faith trust and holy fervor born of faith] the men of old had divine testimony borne to them and obtained a good report.
              AMP 1987

              These verses are clear enough to make it difficult to mess up. Also, see my signature panel, below.
              Allen (Unless noted otherwise, Bible quotations are from the 1984 edition of the NIV)

              Faith--Sees the invisible, believes the incredible, and receives the impossible.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tallen View Post

                What errors do you find in the KJV that up sets you?
                The Apocrypha that was added to your KJVA is where the errors are contained. You said you read Matt Slicks article but you still deny the errors contained in the Apocrypha.Must be those demonic influences.
                Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AlFin View Post

                  Heb 11:1-2

                  1 NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses].

                  2 For by [faith — trust and holy fervor born of faith] the men of old had divine testimony borne to them and obtained a good report.
                  AMP 1987

                  These verses are clear enough to make it difficult to mess up. Also, see my signature panel, below.
                  I agree, but I don't agree with the other translations, only the KJV for the understanding that God wants us to learn, not man's version.
                  But many read it as saying Now Faith, as in "Now, when you speak of faith" it is this....

                  But what the words, "NOW FAITH", is really saying, is Right this moment Faith!, not future, but NOW when you ask, believe your receive it, even when you don't see it YET!

                  Carnal Man needs for God to show it, Before they can believe. But the Just shall live by faith as their way, They take God at His Word(Jesus) and believe it is done before they need to see it manifest, but thanking Him, giving glory unto God, trusting Him as who will bring it to pass according to their faith, be it unto them. Immediate faith is the cost/SUBTSANCE for God to deliver on His promises written in His Word. You will never see your promised land, until you mix God's Word of promise with your FAITH, He is not going to come to you personally and hand you anything!
                  Heb 11:1-4

                  11:1 NOW FAITH is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

                  2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

                  3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

                  4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
                  KJV
                  Last edited by afaithfulone4u; 11-10-18, 02:24 PM.
                  The purpose of my posts are not to cause bicker or division, but to show truth from the scripture for edifying of the soul. It does not matter what we think, it is what God's Word says that matters.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                    The Apocrypha that was added to your KJVA is where the errors are contained. You said you read Matt Slicks article but you still deny the errors contained in the Apocrypha.Must be those demonic influences.
                    You are bearing false witness again. I have never claimed the Apocrapha canonical..., I have claimed it is in the KJV of the bible. In fact, it was in all the Reformation and Protestant bibles. BTW, it wasn't added to the KJV, it was in the KJV until modern text critics took it out around the late 1800s. You really should educate yourself a bit.

                    You still haven't read what the KJV translators said about this..., your ignorance shines through your false witness. You really should stop bearing false witness.

                    Are those demonic influences that you claim influence you what is behind your false witness? I would like for you to answer this.
                    Last edited by Tallen; 11-10-18, 02:40 PM.
                    ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tallen View Post

                      You are bearing false witness again. I have never claimed the Apocrapha canonical.
                      Where did I make that claim? Again must be those demonic influences that bring false accusations.
                      Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                        Where did I make that claim? Again must be those demonic influences that bring false accusations.
                        Where did I say you said that? Must be that demonic influence you claim to have telling you lies, hey?

                        You bore false witness when you said that I said there was no error in the Apocrapha. That is bearing false witness. So..., because of your claim I pointed out I have never said that the Apocrapha is Canonical, which most people attribute to God's word and without error. You see how that works?

                        Hope that helps your mind.
                        Last edited by Tallen; 11-10-18, 03:13 PM.
                        ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                          Where did I make that claim? Again must be those demonic influences that bring false accusations.
                          Once again, you've deleted and ignored most of my post. Why do you ignore this stuff? It doesn't make it go away. Is that how that demonic influence that you claim makes you behave? Ignoring truth keeps you ignorant..., I suppose that is the tactic of demons.
                          ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tallen View Post

                            Where did I say you said that? Must be that demonic influence you claim to have telling you lies, hey?

                            You bore false witness when you said that I said there was no error in the Apocrapha. That is bearing false witness. So..., because of your claim I pointed out I have never said that the Apocrapha is Canonical, which most people attribute to God's word and without error. You see how that works?

                            Hope that helps your mind.
                            It does!!! My mind is fine. So why would you want a bible that contains historical errors in it? Lets see if you are capable of answering my question.
                            Without Love we are nothing more than noise makers.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by spokenword View Post
                              It does!!! My mind is fine. So why would you want a bible that contains historical errors in it? Lets see if you are capable of answering my question.
                              I've answered your ignorant question and linked you to it many times? So why do you continue to ignore and deny what I've already done?

                              Have you read what the KJV translators said about the Apocrapha yet?

                              Yet another one of your posts that bears false witness. It seems your whole purpose here is to bear false witness. Poor fellow.
                              ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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