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  • wof and Philippians 1:29-30

    For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.
    Philippians 1:29-30 KJV

    Two things are gifted to believers:

    1) to believe on Him, Christ.
    2) to suffer for Him.

    ---> Insert your denial here. <---

  • #2
    Yep, that's right.

    Examples of point 2, at least in the USA would be: Christian bakery shop owners, and Christians on just about any school/university campus.
    Allen (Unless noted otherwise, Bible quotations are from the 1984 edition of the NIV)

    Faith--Sees the invisible, believes the incredible, and receives the impossible.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by AlFin View Post
      Yep, that's right.

      Examples of point 2, at least in the USA would be: Christian bakery shop owners, and Christians on just about any school/university campus.
      Examples of point 1 is every believer. 😁
      ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tallen View Post
        For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.
        Philippians 1:29-30 KJV

        Two things are gifted to believers:

        1) to believe on Him, Christ.
        2) to suffer for Him.
        Since you didn't mention Cope, or his jet, what do you think this has to do with Toxic WoF??

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

          Since you didn't mention Cope, or his jet, what do you think this has to do with Toxic WoF??
          It proves a basic wof tenet wrong. 😉
          ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tallen View Post

            It proves a basic wof tenet wrong. 😉
            AH - no "Suffering" in WoF.

            But you'd think when they DO Suffer - Oh, that's right their "Profession was wrong and they "brought it on themselves" -

            How long did it take you to figure out that it wasn't YOUR FAULT, and it just didn't work as advertised???

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bob Carabbio View Post

              AH - no "Suffering" in WoF.

              But you'd think when they DO Suffer - Oh, that's right their "Profession was wrong and they "brought it on themselves" -

              How long did it take you to figure out that it wasn't YOUR FAULT, and it just didn't work as advertised???
              Yeah, that one to.
              ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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              • #8
                I guess these verses are pretty much ignored by wof..., until prodded.
                ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tallen View Post
                  I guess these verses are pretty much ignored by wof..., until prodded.
                  Nope...I guess you pretty much ignored the whole story of Pastor Andrew Brunson. When you put yourself out, and leave the security of your own parochial culture, you'll find the suffering every Christian in a Muslim or Communist country is facing.

                  Actually...you only need to go into a public school and teach nowadays. There will soon be no havens for truth in this country. The separation of Truth from state is being enforced everywhere. We've allowed the enemy in, and our own impoverished, flaccid impotence is accomplishing what? More threads on CARM, but how many answers to the current deadly trends?

                  Jesus promised us trials in this world...and He promised us victory. WoF chooses to emphasize the victory...
                  Pete

                  ~(8-[)}<><===> (flames of new anointing, béret, non-prescription glasses to help critics and their ilk feel more secure, mustache, beard...and tie.) I serve a God who walked this earth for thirty years before He did a single miracle.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tbeachhead View Post

                    Nope...I guess you pretty much ignored the whole story of Pastor Andrew Brunson. When you put yourself out, and leave the security of your own parochial culture, you'll find the suffering every Christian in a Muslim or Communist country is facing.

                    Actually...you only need to go into a public school and teach nowadays. There will soon be no havens for truth in this country. The separation of Truth from state is being enforced everywhere. We've allowed the enemy in, and our own impoverished, flaccid impotence is accomplishing what? More threads on CARM, but how many answers to the current deadly trends?

                    Jesus promised us trials in this world...and He promised us victory. WoF chooses to emphasize the victory...
                    I don't think the battle is lost, in any way. Time for flaccid impotence to turn in bold potence. It's a comin'.
                    ---> Insert your denial here. <---

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tallen View Post

                      I don't think the battle is lost, in any way. Time for flaccid impotence to turn in bold potence. It's a comin'.
                      This is the best answer you've ever offered...almost sound WoF to me. I totally agree, and appreciate the hope you offer.
                      Pete

                      ~(8-[)}<><===> (flames of new anointing, béret, non-prescription glasses to help critics and their ilk feel more secure, mustache, beard...and tie.) I serve a God who walked this earth for thirty years before He did a single miracle.

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