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Is there any evidence for Noah's flood?

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  • Keith C
    started a topic Is there any evidence for Noah's flood?

    Is there any evidence for Noah's flood?

    This study seems to find no evidence for Noah's flood.

    Study traces ecological collapse over 6,000 years of Egyptian history
    The researchers identified five episodes over the past 6,000 years when dramatic changes occurred in Egypt's mammalian community, three of which coincided with extreme environmental changes as the climate shifted to more arid conditions. These drying periods also coincided with upheaval in human societies, such as the collapse of the Old Kingdom around 4,000 years ago and the fall of the New Kingdom about 3,000 years ago.

    "There were three large pulses of aridification as Egypt went from a wetter to a drier climate, starting with the end of the African Humid Period 5,500 years ago when the monsoons shifted to the south," Yeakel said. "At the same time, human population densities were increasing, and competition for space along the Nile Valley would have had a large impact on animal populations."

    The most recent major shift in mammalian communities occurred about 100 years ago.
    Instead of a flood, the environment becomes progressively drier, starting from about the Earth was supposed to be created.

  • juglans1
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    Originally posted by Timtofly View Post

    Either it is a curse or God. You pick.
    Or just words in a book.

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  • Timtofly
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    Originally posted by juglans1 View Post

    So why didn't Jesus have a god, and was he therefore blaspheming in Matt 27:46 when he cursed a god for being executed for sedition against Rome and claiming to be the Jewish king?

    Matthew 27:46 King James Version (KJV)
    46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
    Either it is a curse or God. You pick.

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  • juglans1
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    Originally posted by Timtofly View Post
    Jesus did not have a god.
    So why didn't Jesus have a god, and was he therefore blaspheming in Matt 27:46 when he cursed a god for being executed for sedition against Rome and claiming to be the Jewish king?

    Matthew 27:46 King James Version (KJV)
    46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
    Last edited by juglans1; 05-11-19, 09:12 AM.

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  • Timtofly
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    Originally posted by juglans1 View Post
    Then what was he trying to appeal for help from when he was being executed for sedition and claiming to have an inherited right to be the Jewish king (Matt 27:46 Mark 15:34)? Or was he appealing for help from his mother?
    The same reason you appeal being disobedient to God. Or outright reject God. I am not sure which is applicable.

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  • Aman777
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    Originally posted by juglans1 View Post

    IOW the bible says that most of Noah's family were drowned in that particular flood, including his grandparents and widowed mother and his aunts & uncles & cousins and his brothers & sisters and Noah's hundreds of other children & grandchildren born before and after Mrs Noah gave birth to triplets at aged 500 "years" old (Gen 5:26-32). Or so the story goes.

    Or do you believe that no one drowned in that particular flood since it was only 15 cubits high and why it had no effect on a nearby olive tree, nor on kangaroos & sloths nor on our aborigines who arrived here over 50,000 years ago and long before Adam's grandmother was a girl?
    Adam's Earth, the world that THEN WAS 2 Peter3:6 was totally destroyed (Greek-perished) in the flood on the 150th day after the flood began. This released the 450 foot long Ark into Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat in the world WHICH IS NOW 2 Peter 3:7. This means that Adam's firmament was from another world, another Heaven, another Universe. Amen?

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  • juglans1
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    Originally posted by Timtofly View Post
    Jesus did not have a god.
    Then what was he trying to appeal for help from when he was being executed for sedition and claiming to have an inherited right to be the Jewish king (Matt 27:46 Mark 15:34)? Or was he appealing for help from his mother?
    Last edited by juglans1; 05-10-19, 05:41 PM.

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  • Timtofly
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    Jesus did not have a god.

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  • juglans1
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    Originally posted by Timtofly View Post

    No one has greater love than a person who lays down his life for his friends.
    And that's why those people are awarded Victoria Crosses or other awards for valour. In contrast, Jesus didn't volunteer to be executed for sedition by the Romans and cursed his god when he unsuccessfully appealed for help from it (Matt 27:46 Mark 15:34).
    Last edited by juglans1; 05-10-19, 04:42 PM.

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  • Timtofly
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    Originally posted by juglans1 View Post
    So what sort of saviour is that if he couldn't even save himself from being executed for sedition and claiming to be the Jewish king?
    No one has greater love than a person who lays down his life for his friends.

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  • juglans1
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    Originally posted by Timtofly View Post

    History is funny like that. They needed a saviour, but got a king. Then they needed a king, and got a saviour.
    So what sort of saviour is that if he couldn't even save himself from being executed for sedition and claiming to be the Jewish king?

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  • Timtofly
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    Originally posted by juglans1 View Post
    At least he didn't unsuccessfully ask for help from his god, nor was he executed for sedition and claiming to have an inherited right to be the Jewish king.
    History is funny like that. They needed a saviour, but got a king. Then they needed a king, and got a saviour.

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  • LeoTheLibrarian
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    Originally posted by Keith C View Post
    This study seems to find no evidence for Noah's flood.
    God's intervention in this world never leaves direct evidence. That would negate faith.
    God honors Faith, not hard evidence.

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  • juglans1
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    Originally posted by Timtofly View Post
    How did that work out for David so far?
    At least he didn't unsuccessfully ask for help from his god, nor was he executed for sedition and claiming to have an inherited right to be the Jewish king.

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  • Timtofly
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    How did that work out for David so far?

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