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  • Young Earth and Stars?

    if the earth is young like many believe, how is it that the light from stars can be millions of light years away?

  • #2
    It's the way God planned it.




    Mark 9:24 Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

    “Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things,
    but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.” ― Martin Luther


    Muretus "Call no man worthless for whom Christ died!"

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    • #3
      A detailed answer is on the internet somewhere. Thank you.

      Einstein discovered this.

      It took me 30 years to find the proof, even though it was obvious always.

      Others, not so long it took; and others never find; go figure.


      Originally posted by Faith1960 View Post
      if the earth is young like many believe, how is it that the light from stars can be millions of light years away?

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      • #4
        If it’s so obvious could you please share it with me?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Faith1960 View Post
          if the earth is young like many believe, how is it that the light from stars can be millions of light years away?
          Hello, Faith 1960.

          For people that believe in young-earth-creationism, "Starlight and Time: Solving the puzzle of Distant Starlight in a Young Universe" by Dr. Russell Humphreys, is a primary source that provides a model explaining why astrophysicists consistently measure objects that are millions and billions of light-years from Earth. In a nutshell, Humphreys' model is a -modified- version of the Big Bang where gravitational time dilation coupled to the acceleration of the fabric of spacetime is used to account for a young earth belief.

          A detailed review by astrophysicists Samuel R. Conner ( Department of physics, Massachusetts Institute of technology ) and Don N. Page ( Department of Physics, University of Alberta ) is provided ----> here.
          Last edited by inertia; 02-13-19, 12:31 AM.
          "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

          Heisenberg
          .....................

          " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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          • #6
            Originally posted by inertia View Post

            Hello, Faith 1960.

            For people that believe in young-earth-creationism, "Starlight and Time: Solving the puzzle of Distant Starlight in a Young Universe" by Dr. Russell Humphreys, is a primary source that provides a model explaining why astrophysicists consistently measure objects that are millions and billions of light-years from Earth. In a nutshell, Humphreys' model is a -modified- version of the Big Bang where gravitational time dilation coupled to the acceleration of the fabric of spacetime is used to account for a young earth belief.

            A detailed review by astrophysicists Samuel R. Conner ( Department of physics, Massachusetts Institute of technology ) and Don N. Page ( Department of Physics, University of Alberta ) is provided ----> here.


            Well, THAT was way above my head.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jethro77 View Post
              A detailed answer is on the internet somewhere. Thank you.

              Einstein discovered this.

              It took me 30 years to find the proof, even though it was obvious always.

              Others, not so long it took; and others never find; go figure.





              Are black holes to blame? If so,the black holes themselves are older than what creationists say about the universe.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Faith1960 View Post



                Are black holes to blame? If so,the black holes themselves are older than what creationists say about the universe.
                Don't worry nor be anxious about anything. All creation in and through and including all the heavenlies proclaim the majesty of the Creator and give Him Glory all the time.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jethro77 View Post

                  Don't worry nor be anxious about anything. All creation in and through and including all the heavenlies proclaim the majesty of the Creator and give Him Glory all the time.
                  So Einstein didn’t explain it?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jethro77 View Post

                    Don't worry nor be anxious about anything. All creation in and through and including all the heavenlies proclaim the majesty of the Creator and give Him Glory all the time.
                    An interesting postulate. I don't share it.
                    Regards, HRG.

                    "The universe doesn't care what happens to its inhabitants, but its inhabitants do" (Tyrrho).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by inertia View Post

                      Hello, Faith 1960.

                      For people that believe in young-earth-creationism, "Starlight and Time: Solving the puzzle of Distant Starlight in a Young Universe" by Dr. Russell Humphreys, is a primary source that provides a model explaining why astrophysicists consistently measure objects that are millions and billions of light-years from Earth. In a nutshell, Humphreys' model is a -modified- version of the Big Bang where gravitational time dilation coupled to the acceleration of the fabric of spacetime is used to account for a young earth belief.

                      A detailed review by astrophysicists Samuel R. Conner ( Department of physics, Massachusetts Institute of technology ) and Don N. Page ( Department of Physics, University of Alberta ) is provided ----> here.
                      Let's tell Faith 1960 as well that in Humphrey's model Earth would be reduced to glowing plasma from the inrushing photons from the rest of the universe.
                      Regards, HRG.

                      "The universe doesn't care what happens to its inhabitants, but its inhabitants do" (Tyrrho).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Faith1960 View Post



                        Well, THAT was way above my head.
                        Okay. I didn't know my audience. I'll turn the jargon down.

                        Currently, there are two standard measuring techniques and a third technique might be available on the horizon to determine the distance to objects in deep space.

                        Note: I am a follower of Jesus.

                        "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                        Heisenberg
                        .....................

                        " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HRG View Post

                          Let's tell Faith 1960 as well that in Humphrey's model Earth would be reduced to glowing plasma from the inrushing photons from the rest of the universe.
                          You got my attention. Relativistic thermal effects?
                          "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                          Heisenberg
                          .....................

                          " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jethro77 View Post

                            Don't worry nor be anxious about anything. All creation in and through and including all the heavenlies proclaim the majesty of the Creator and give Him Glory all the time.
                            Awesome response!

                            "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                            Heisenberg
                            .....................

                            " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Faith1960 View Post

                              So Einstein didn’t explain it?
                              Yes. Some history...



                              The Big Bang ( everywhere stretch ) model was initially described in eleven different verses: Job 9:8; Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22; 42:5; 44:24; 45:12; 48:13; 51:13; Jeremiah 10:12; 51:15; and Zechariah 12:1.
                              Last edited by inertia; 02-13-19, 12:11 PM.
                              "The exact sciences also start from the assumption that in the end it will always be possible to understand nature, even in every new field of experience, but that we make no a priori assumptions about the meaning of the word "understand"."

                              Heisenberg
                              .....................

                              " It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and it is the glory of a king to search out a matter. " ( Proverbs 25:2 )

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