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  • Originally posted by stiggywiggy View Post

    So you think the Bible was meant as a policy paper for geopolitical issues?

    What "position" does the Bible take on the minimum wage?
    One thing is fer sure fer sure, a random catholic actor has all the answers!
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    • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post

      You are welcome to state it, if you believe it there.



      I am quite sure, in your mind, there is a fundagelical somewhere to blame.
      The fact is that many evangelical and fundamentalist Christians have emphatically stated that the Bible does condemn such things. And so have you.

      And no I do not have a link, so the assertion "James the Less has made the argument that the Bible does certainly and unambiguously denounced the near genocide of a people" is without basis.

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      • Originally posted by simplicio View Post

        The fact is that many evangelical and fundamentalist Christians have emphatically stated that the Bible does condemn such things. And so have you.
        You should back off your silly "fact" declarations, fella.

        Originally posted by simplicio View Post
        And no I do not have a link, so the assertion "James the Less has made the argument that the Bible does certainly and unambiguously denounced the near genocide of a people" is without basis.
        So, here ya go Pixie.

        Simplicio has declared the scriptures denounce US Colonists treatment of Native Americans.

        I'm sure he will lay out his biblical case in short order.....surely. I'm sure you are quite interested in what he has to say. I'm sure you two will have a rip rorrin argument over it. This is all rhetorical, ya know.
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        • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post

          You should back off your silly "fact" declarations, fella.



          So, here ya go Pixie.

          Simplicio has declared the scriptures denounce US Colonists treatment of Native Americans.

          I'm sure he will lay out his biblical case in short order.....surely. I'm sure you are quite interested in what he has to say. I'm sure you two will have a rip rorrin argument over it. This is all rhetorical, ya know.
          Why should I back off from the fact that evangelicals have argued both on this page and elsewhere on CARM that the Bible does definitely denounce those things. Even you.

          Funny how yesterday's arguments are denied today. It is almost like the faith changes from day to day and is not rooted in eternity.

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          • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post
            Here is your oh so important question again.

            "Okay, so let us discuss the killing of Native Americans by US colonists. Was that morally right, do you think?"

            There isn't a specific biblical position that I know of, therefore it matters little to me.

            Thus endeth your question.
            Oh, I see. If it is not in the Bible, then you can have no opinion on its morality.

            With regards to what the Nazis did, is there a "specific biblical position"? Or does that not matter either?

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            • Originally posted by The Pixie View Post
              Oh, I see. If it is not in the Bible, then you can have no opinion on its morality.
              Close, though seemingly tainted with septic skepticism.

              If it is not in the bible, then I feel no need to "go beyond what the scriptures teach" <----yes, that is in the bible.

              So when you intimate the scriptures condemn American Colonists, I must say I don't see it. Not that I don't have opinions on the matter, but I don't claim to be capable of condemning nations. If I were to do that, England would get my first condemnation, and every other nation on this earth. You seem to be under the impression that America equals the church. It doesn't.

              Originally posted by The Pixie View Post
              With regards to what the Nazis did, is there a "specific biblical position"? Or does that not matter either?
              You conflate the scriptures not speaking directly to nations and their 'rights', with "does not matter"

              Yet another reason why your septic attitude gets little from me. I see most atheists here as not really desiring to understand what the bible teaches, just potshot commentary. If you can rise above it, more may discuss with you.
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              • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                Why should I back off from the fact that evangelicals have argued both on this page and elsewhere on CARM that the Bible does definitely denounce those things. Even you.

                Funny how yesterday's arguments are denied today. It is almost like the faith changes from day to day and is not rooted in eternity.
                I have no idea what evil I have done, according to your manufactured "facts"

                Shoot, half the time I can't even make sense of what you are saying. But I do know I am bad, bad, bad, and all fundagelicals belong to me.....or some such.
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                • Originally posted by The Pixie View Post
                  With regards to what the Nazis did, is there a "specific biblical position"?
                  Yeah: It's not a good idea to gas to death 6,000,000 of God's chosen people. You need it IN WRITING?

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                  • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post

                    I have no idea what evil I have done, according to your manufactured "facts"

                    Shoot, half the time I can't even make sense of what you are saying. But I do know I am bad, bad, bad, and all fundagelicals belong to me.....or some such.
                    I was discussion your argument made earlier, an argument which is at odds with your previous arguments and the arguments of other evangelicals.

                    Now the Bible is silent on the actions taken by European Christians which resulted on the depopulation of the Native Americans. Who on earth really believes that?

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                    • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                      Now the Bible is silent on the actions taken by European Christians which resulted on the depopulation of the Native Americans. Who on earth really believes that?
                      The Bible, written many centuries ago, say nothing about stuff that happened on the other side of the globe a mere three centuries ago, This surprises you? Are you also surprised that it didn't tell us about the JFK assasination?

                      Last edited by stiggywiggy; 04-16-18, 10:04 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by stiggywiggy View Post
                        The Bible, written many centuries ago, says, nothing about stuff that happened on the other side of the globe a mere three centuries ago, This surprises you? Are you also surprised that it didn't tell us about the JFK asassination?

                        But it does tell us quite a bit about morality. Which is the usual positions of Christians here on CARM. Now it seems that it is silent because it does not include specific details.

                        Is that really an exegetical principle?

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                        • Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                          I was discussion your argument made earlier, an argument which is at odds with your previous arguments and the arguments of other evangelicals.
                          Really? I was commenting upon your earlier facts, which were at odds with your previous facts, and arguments of other facts not in factual evidence.

                          Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                          Now the Bible is silent on the actions taken by European Christians which resulted on the depopulation of the Native Americans. Who on earth really believes that?
                          I keep waiting for you to provide. Seems beyond you I guess.
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                          • Originally posted by simplicio View Post

                            But it does tell us quite a bit about morality.
                            Make up your mind. Is it an exhaustive historical document or a dissertation on ethics?


                            Which is the usual positions of Christians here on CARM. Now it seems that it is silent because it does not include specific details.
                            Obviously we are silent on non-existent things. It is simply absurd on your part to expect Christians to discuss how the Bible deals with native Americans. May as well ask how it deals with OJ Simpson.

                            Your posts make less and less sense every day.

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                            • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post

                              It is already clear the average atheist on carm thinks God can do literally anything, and yet we see God saying with man, He cannot.
                              Where?

                              The thing is, according to the Bible, God has already cured people of disease which is the point I've been arguing. Why didn't God cure people of the Black Death, which He created in the first place, as He has cured others, for example in Matthew 8. You have been saying God can't do everything because He isn't omnipotent in response to me asking why He didn't cure people of the Black Death, and yet He can cure disease in the form of Jesus as demonstrated in Matthew 8.

                              Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post
                              Mans choices can thwart God.
                              Man didn't choose the Black Death.

                              Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post
                              You cannot seem to account for it in your canned, childish thinking.
                              Account for what exactly? You're being vague again.

                              Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post
                              And so, I wait for you to deal with it, watch you reach high and low for insults, diversions, and just silliness. But there it is, for all to read, and here you are, claiming God can do anything you can dream up. When you make effort to resolve this, I may listen to what you have to say. Maybe.
                              Iv'e made my points, and here we see the usual Lesser excuse not to actually discuss something he finds difficult, as usual.

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                              • Originally posted by Whatsisface View Post
                                Where?
                                You don't know?

                                Originally posted by Whatsisface View Post
                                The thing is, according to the Bible, God has already cured people of disease which is the point I've been arguing. Why didn't God cure people of the Black Death, which He created in the first place, as He has cured others, for example in Matthew 8. You have been saying God can't do everything because He isn't omnipotent in response to me asking why He didn't cure people of the Black Death, and yet He can cure disease in the form of Jesus as demonstrated in Matthew 8.
                                You will need to ponder why God did not heal in Mark 6. Lets see how you do.

                                Originally posted by Whatsisface View Post
                                Iv'e made my points, and here we see the usual Lesser excuse not to actually discuss something he finds difficult, as usual.
                                I've made my points, and the usual whats his face is in over his head, or just whining, or both.
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