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Christians, why did your deity fail Jarrid Wilson?

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  • Christians, why did your deity fail Jarrid Wilson?

    A mega-church pastor, Jarrid Wilson, died by suicide this week. My question is why your deity failed him when he was most in need? The amount of pain and suffering a person would have to be in to make them decide to end their own life has to be extreme. If we assume your deity to both exist and have the knowledge/power to help Jarrid, wouldn't it be unloving and immoral to not help him?

    https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/11...ide/index.html
    "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

  • #2
    Originally posted by bob1 View Post
    A mega-church pastor, Jarrid Wilson, died by suicide this week. My question is why your deity failed him when he was most in need? The amount of pain and suffering a person would have to be in to make them decide to end their own life has to be extreme. If we assume your deity to both exist and have the knowledge/power to help Jarrid, wouldn't it be unloving and immoral to not help him?

    https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/11...ide/index.html
    Why did yer deity fail Darwinist Hitler?

    Last thing he did was kill a Nazi.

    Why do Nazis claim their Hitler was a "Christian"?

    I have never heard of Jarrid.

    You religion supports pro-deather abortion

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bob1 View Post
      A mega-church pastor, Jarrid Wilson, died by suicide this week. My question is why your deity failed him when he was most in need? The amount of pain and suffering a person would have to be in to make them decide to end their own life has to be extreme. If we assume your deity to both exist and have the knowledge/power to help Jarrid, wouldn't it be unloving and immoral to not help him?

      https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/11...ide/index.html
      Satan will destroy anyone that allows him into their life!! Their choice!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bob1 View Post
        A mega-church pastor, Jarrid Wilson, died by suicide this week. My question is why your deity failed him when he was most in need? The amount of pain and suffering a person would have to be in to make them decide to end their own life has to be extreme. If we assume your deity to both exist and have the knowledge/power to help Jarrid, wouldn't it be unloving and immoral to not help him?

        https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/11...ide/index.html
        Did the deity really fail Jarrid Wilson?

        You have no idea what Jarrid Wilson was going through. You have no idea of how many people Jarrid Wilson helped through his ministry.

        For you to even ask that question is a disgrace.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

          Did the deity really fail Jarrid Wilson?

          You have no idea what Jarrid Wilson was going through. You have no idea of how many people Jarrid Wilson helped through his ministry.

          For you to even ask that question is a disgrace.
          Elijah had a low moment


          When Elijah finally quit running he sat down under a juniper tree and asked God to let him die. “I’ve had it, Lord,” he said, “take my life for I am no better than my ancestors” (1 Kings 19:4).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

            Elijah had a low moment




            The mocking proponents. against God forget humans live in a fallen world.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bob1 View Post
              A mega-church pastor, Jarrid Wilson, died by suicide this week. My question is why your deity failed him when he was most in need? The amount of pain and suffering a person would have to be in to make them decide to end their own life has to be extreme. If we assume your deity to both exist and have the knowledge/power to help Jarrid, wouldn't it be unloving and immoral to not help him?

              https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/11...ide/index.html
              Never heard of him. What proof do you have that whoever this guy is, he ever reached out to God, for God to have failed him? But you seized on a tragic event for what you thought was a gotcha moment, didn't you? Such atheistic compassion.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by bob1 View Post
                A mega-church pastor, Jarrid Wilson, died by suicide this week. My question is why your deity failed him when he was most in need? The amount of pain and suffering a person would have to be in to make them decide to end their own life has to be extreme. If we assume your deity to both exist and have the knowledge/power to help Jarrid, wouldn't it be unloving and immoral to not help him?

                https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/11...ide/index.html
                I have to agree with Crow.

                You really have no idea what Jarrid was experiencing or dealing with.

                That said, as followers of Jesus we have a dimension to life that you lack because you are spiritually dead in your sin and trespass, Ephesians 2:1.

                It's not that God failed Jarrid as much as it is Jarrid got stuck somewhere in between this life and the next, and lost sight of God.

                Most people who follow Jesus experience this on some level or another.

                Elijah experienced it, as have most of the people in the bible.

                Jesus himself experienced something like it in the garden of gethsemane.

                Tell you what....

                Why don't you take the time to read the bible for the purpose of understanding, then you can get a glimpse into the dynamics of being a follower of Jesus and the impact the world has on us.

                A good place to start is Romans. 2 Corinthians 4 is another.


                https://twitter.com/edstetzer/status...713735680?s=19

                https://www.facebook.com/45515101697...7350912746698/

                The Facebook link is to the page of the lead pastor at the church Jarrid worked at
                God is real. He can be known. You only cheat yourself by giving what you call reasons, and are nothing more than excuses. There's an old saying:
                an excuse is nothing more than a skin of reason, over a skeleton of lies.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stiggywiggy View Post

                  Never heard of him. What proof do you have that whoever this guy is, he ever reached out to God, for God to have failed him? But you seized on a tragic event for what you thought was a gotcha moment, didn't you? Such atheistic compassion.
                  He was an associate pastor at Harvest Christian Fellowship in Riverside, California.
                  one of the earlier offshoots of the Calvary Chapel fellowship in Costa Mesa.

                  God is real. He can be known. You only cheat yourself by giving what you call reasons, and are nothing more than excuses. There's an old saying:
                  an excuse is nothing more than a skin of reason, over a skeleton of lies.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bob1 View Post
                    A mega-church pastor, Jarrid Wilson, died by suicide this week. My question is why your deity failed him when he was most in need?
                    Perhaps our Deity knew something about Mr. Wilson that we do not?
                    THE BIBLE SAYS IT, THAT SETTLES IT.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

                      Why did yer deity fail Darwinist Hitler?

                      Last thing he did was kill a Nazi.

                      Why do Nazis claim their Hitler was a "Christian"?

                      I have never heard of Jarrid.

                      You religion supports pro-deather abortion
                      I don't have a deity... I'm an atheist. But thanks for trying.
                      "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GISMYS View Post

                        Satan will destroy anyone that allows him into their life!! Their choice!!!
                        But Jarrid was a Christian and a pastor, and Matthew Warren was a Christian as well. Why did your deity fail to protect them and take care of them?
                        "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                          Did the deity really fail Jarrid Wilson?

                          You have no idea what Jarrid Wilson was going through. You have no idea of how many people Jarrid Wilson helped through his ministry.

                          For you to even ask that question is a disgrace.
                          Assuming your deity exists... yea, we can conclude that said deity failed Jarrid (just as he did Matthew Warren). Obviously he was going through something profoundly painful and crushing, such that he eventually ended his own life. So why didn't your deity heal/fix him? Why didn't your deity take away or remedy whatever situation or circumstance that was hurting him so terribly that he ended his life?
                          Who or how ever many people he helped is irrelevant to the obvious fact that HE, Jarrid, didn't receive the help that HE NEEDED.

                          Your attempts to dodge the question and issue are telling.
                          "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

                            Elijah had a low moment




                            Doesn't answer my question.
                            "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                              The mocking proponents. against God forget humans live in a fallen world.
                              And this doesn't answer my question either.
                              "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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