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Biologists, Chemists, Paleontologists Challenge Darwin's Unscientific Suggestion

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  • Biologists, Chemists, Paleontologists Challenge Darwin's Unscientific Suggestion

    The same tired put-downs, day after day, from the same angry, hateful individuals, pretending to be smarter than anyone who deigns to disagree with them. "You don't understand evolution," they repeat until you want to vomit. Scientists cited below DO "understand evolution" as it was proposed by a very mediocre Charles Darwin 150 years ago. Argue with them. And NO, these quotes aren't "taken out of context."

    "Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: Ye must have faith. It is a quality which the scientist cannot dispense with. Both religion and science need for their activities the belief in God" - Max Planck

    “In China we can criticize Darwin, but not the government; in America, you can criticize the government, but not Darwin.” - Jun-Yuan Chen, Chinese paleontologist who is an acknowledged expert on the Cambrian explosion

    Dr Marc Kirschner, chair of the Department of Systems Biology, Harvard Medical School, stated: “In fact, over the last 100 years, almost all of biology has proceeded independent of evolution, except evolutionary biology itself. Molecular biology, biochemistry, physiology, have not taken evolution into account at all.

    According to anthropologist Tom Kemp, in his famous review, Mammal-like Reptiles and the Origin of Mammals, “In no single adequately documented case is it possible to trace a transition, species by species, from one genus to another.”

    "Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless." (Prof. Louis Bounoure, Director of Research, National Center of Scientific Research.)

    "The Darwinian theory of descent has not a single fact to confirm it in the realm of nature. It is not the result of scientific research but purely the product of the imagination." (Albert Fleishman, professor of zoology & comparative anatomy at Erlangen University)

    "Nine tenths of the talk of evolution is sheer nonsense not founded on observation and wholly unsupported by fact. This Museum is full of proof of the utter falsity of their view." (Dr. Ethredge, British Museum of Science.)

    "I believe that one day the Darwinian myth will be ranked the greatest deceit in the history of science. When this happens, many people will pose the question, "How did this ever happen?" (Dr. Sorren Luthrip, Swedish Embryologist)

    "Evolution is baseless and quite incredible." (Dr. John Ambrose Fleming, President, British Association for Advancement of Science, in "The Unleashing of Evolutionary Thought")

    "Complex molecules that are essential to particular organisms often have such a vast information content as...to make the theory of evolution impossible." (Bird, Origin of Species Revisited, Vol. 1, pg. 71)

    "A close inspection discovers an empirical impossibility to be inherent in the idea of evolution." (Dr. Nils Heribert-Nilsson, Swedish botanist and geneticist, English Summary of Synthetische Artbildung, pg. 1142-43, 1186.)

    "At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries." - Robert Jastrow, physicist and cosmologist, God and the Astronomers, page 116

    "Therefore, a grotesque account of a period some thousands of years ago is taken seriously though it be built by piling special assumptions on special assumptions, ad hoc hypothesis [invented for a purpose] on ad hoc hypothesis, and tearing apart the fabric of science whenever it appears convenient. The result is a fantasia which is neither history nor science." (Dr. James Conant [chemist and former president of Harvard University], quoted in Origins Research, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1982, p. 2.)

    Last edited by RenaissanceMan; 07-13-18, 11:57 PM.

  • D Laurier
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    Originally posted by marke View Post
    Why did you not say so before?
    Because I did say so before. Dozens of times over the years.
    Clearly you refer to big-brained evolutionist geniuses and democrat politicians in the 'dough.'
    No marke.
    Clearly I do NOT refer to any of these imaginary boogiemen of yours, since I did not know about them until you brought them to my attention.
    It never occurred to me to think that your "big-brained evolutionist geniuses and democrat politicians in the 'dough'" might even exist, let alone be apes.

    Again marke...
    Ape;
    Any member of a large brained, tailless, primate, species, with a semi-erect to erect posture.
    Characterized by prolonged infancy, complex social organization, tool use, and great intelligence.

    Notice the lack of any "big-brained evolutionist geniuses and democrat politicians in the 'dough.'".

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by D Laurier View Post
    Nope.
    Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as a Darwinist definition... and the definition you post is wrong. It excludes at least 8 known species of ape.



    Nope.
    Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as a Christian definition... and the definition you post is again wrong. To say nothing of absurd.
    Two wrong definitions marke.
    How bad is that.


    There is ONE definition marke.
    Just one.
    Ape;
    Any member of a large brained, tailless, primate, species, with a semi-erect to erect posture.
    Characterized by prolonged infancy, complex social organization, tool use, and great intelligence.
    Why did you not say so before? Clearly you refer to big-brained evolutionist geniuses and democrat politicians in the 'dough.'

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  • D Laurier
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    Originally posted by aussiedave View Post
    Hissy fit much?
    I notice a distinct lack of actual discussion.
    indeed.
    i've tried.

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  • D Laurier
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    Darwinist definition: Any member of the human species, like Michelle O. and Charles D., for examples.
    Nope.
    Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as a Darwinist definition... and the definition you post is wrong. It excludes at least 8 known species of ape.


    Christian definition: Brute beast of the jungle which should not be fed by humans.
    Nope.
    Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as a Christian definition... and the definition you post is again wrong. To say nothing of absurd.
    Two wrong definitions marke.
    How bad is that.


    There is ONE definition marke.
    Just one.
    Ape;
    Any member of a large brained, tailless, primate, species, with a semi-erect to erect posture.
    Characterized by prolonged infancy, complex social organization, tool use, and great intelligence.

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by D Laurier View Post
    marke. Do you know what an ape is?
    Please explain what defines an ape.
    Darwinist definition: Any member of the human species, like Michelle O. and Charles D., for examples.

    Christian definition: Brute beast of the jungle which should not be fed by humans.

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  • D Laurier
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    marke. Do you know what an ape is?
    Please explain what defines an ape.

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  • D Laurier
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    Why worry about some non-entity when God is to be considered?
    Given that God is that very non-entity...

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by rossum View Post

    But karma does care.

    rossum
    Why worry about some non-entity when God is to be considered?

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  • aussiedave
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    Originally posted by RenaissanceMan View Post
    D Laurier:

    Perhaps you might engage in actual discussion for a change.
    What is "Darwin's unscientific suggestion"?

    When evil is powerful, good men are silenced.

    -----------------------------

    "Actual discussion"? With you or any of your other co-Darwinists? When have any of you ever done that?

    1. You know very well the inference of "Darwin's unscientific suggestion. You simply choose to play rhetorical games.
    You posture like your other friends here.

    2. Your quote at the bottom of every post you make is a "quote mine." When you and your kind aren't condemning "quote mining," you are quote mining to suit your own purposes, oblivious to your own hypocrisy.

    3. Good men are not "silenced" until they are killed. Don't you even know that? Good men continue to fight the good fight.

    4. Nor did you bother to provide the author to the quote you deem so very important, much less cite a reference for it.
    And you talk down to others about "actual discussion." The gall. The unmitigated gall. Your failed attempt to put me down, yet again, shows exactly why I rarely bother to respond to you and yours. It wastes my time and you never learn anything because you don't want to learn. You just want to puff yourself up and posture.
    Hissy fit much?
    I notice a distinct lack of actual discussion.

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  • rossum
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    Originally posted by marke View Post
    Go ahead. Let it go. Natural selection does not care what you think, say or do.
    But karma does care.

    rossum

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  • D Laurier
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    Originally posted by RenaissanceMan View Post
    D Laurier:
    Yes?

    Perhaps you might engage in actual discussion for a change.
    Excuse me?
    I'm not the one who refuses to engage in discussion
    Actualy, you are.
    What is "Darwin's unscientific suggestion"?
    How should I know?
    You created it without bothering to explain it.

    When evil is powerful, good men are silenced.
    So you agree.
    Good. Maybe you are prepared to start listening

    -----------------------------
    "Actual discussion"? With you or any of your other co-Darwinists? When have any of you ever done that?
    Yes.
    What "other co-Darwinists"?
    Only all my life

    1. You know very well the inference of "Darwin's unscientific suggestion. You simply choose to play rhetorical games.
    You posture like your other friends here
    .
    No. I do not.
    No I do not.
    No I do not.

    2. Your quote at the bottom of every post you make is a "quote mine." When you and your kind aren't condemning "quote mining," you are quote mining to suit your own purposes, oblivious to your own hypocrisy.
    Actualy it is not. It is not even a quote.
    My "kind"?
    Please show an example of me resorting tom quotemining.

    3. Good men are not "silenced" until they are killed. Don't you even know that? Good men continue to fight the good fight.
    We are silenced all the time, by corrupt courts, a tamed press, overwhelming propaganda, and periodic imprisonments, among other things.
    And didnt you just agree with me a few lines above?

    4. Nor did you bother to provide the author to the quote you deem so very important, much less cite a reference for it.
    And you talk down to others about "actual discussion." The gall. The unmitigated gall. Your failed attempt to put me down, yet again, shows exactly why I rarely bother to respond to you and yours. It wastes my time and you never learn anything because you don't want to learn. You just want to puff yourself up and posture.
    What quote?
    I do not talk down to anyone.
    What "gall"? What "unmitigated gall"?
    Maybe because my "failed attempt" only exists in your own fantasys. Having never actually attempted to put you down.
    I learn things every day, precisely because I have never refused to learn.
    I have never in my life wanted to puff myself up, or posture.

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  • marke
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    Originally posted by rossum View Post

    Must resist... Must resist...

    rossum
    Go ahead. Let it go. Natural selection does not care what you think, say or do.

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  • rossum
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    Originally posted by marke View Post
    Have you ever tried to conduct reasonable discussions with an ape?
    Must resist... Must resist...

    rossum

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  • D Laurier
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    Originally posted by marke View Post

    Have you ever tried to conduct reasonable discussions with an ape?
    I have.

    So if humans are not apes... what are we?

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