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  • Dino biomaterial.

    There is still a lot of interest in dinosaur biomaterial and rightly so.
    It is a scientific rarity.
    I found a picture of the first piece of biomaterial found by Mary Schwietzer's team. The .2 mm is minute, the sample is only a few millimeters across. To put it in perspective, that is about as big as a matchhead.


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    A clump of vessel-like structures Mary Schweitzer's team extracted from a Tyrannosaurus rex bone that was almost completely demineralized (broken down).
    This is from science daily. It describes how scientists are now able to extract proteins from 80 my old dino bones.
    I won't present the link as posting too much information stymies the whole post - "Disallowed" or some such thing.
    I thought it would be interesting to put in perspective just what this biomaterial is that seems to have the creationists thinking they have "evols" on the run.
    Nothing like some facts to throw a damper on the party.
    This should be fun.
    Last edited by 4Him; 02-08-19, 10:20 PM.
    With all the conflicting religious beliefs in the world, they can’t all be right. But they can all be wrong.
    Herb Silverman.

  • #2
    Originally posted by aussiedave View Post
    There is still a lot of interest in dinosaur biomaterial and rightly so.
    It is a scientific rarity.
    I found a picture of the first piece of biomaterial found by Mary Schwietzer's team. The .2 mm is minute, the sample is only a few millimeters across. To put it in perspective, that is about as big as a matchhead.


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    A clump of vessel-like structures Mary Schweitzer's team extracted from a Tyrannosaurus rex bone that was almost completely demineralized (broken down).
    This is from science daily. It describes how scientists are now able to extract proteins from 80 my old dino bones.
    I won't present the link as posting too much information stymies the whole post - "Disallowed" or some such thing.
    I thought it would be interesting to put in perspective just what this biomaterial is that seems to have the creationists thinking they have "evols" on the run.
    Nothing like some facts to throw a damper on the party.
    This should be fun.
    What biomaterial?


    No link?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

      What biomaterial?


      No link?
      I was waiting for a wise guy to ask and now I have a separate post from the op so, here it is.
      With all the conflicting religious beliefs in the world, they can’t all be right. But they can all be wrong.
      Herb Silverman.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by aussiedave View Post
        There is still a lot of interest in dinosaur biomaterial and rightly so.
        It is a scientific rarity.
        I found a picture of the first piece of biomaterial found by Mary Schwietzer's team. The .2 mm is minute, the sample is only a few millimeters across. To put it in perspective, that is about as big as a matchhead.


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        A clump of vessel-like structures Mary Schweitzer's team extracted from a Tyrannosaurus rex bone that was almost completely demineralized (broken down).
        This is from science daily. It describes how scientists are now able to extract proteins from 80 my old dino bones.
        I won't present the link as posting too much information stymies the whole post - "Disallowed" or some such thing.
        I thought it would be interesting to put in perspective just what this biomaterial is that seems to have the creationists thinking they have "evols" on the run.
        Nothing like some facts to throw a damper on the party.
        This should be fun.
        You do know Mary Schweitzer's team tried to demonstrate how it was preserved with "iron"...and failed?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CrowCross View Post
          You do know Mary Schweitzer's team tried to demonstrate how it was preserved with "iron"...and failed?
          And that disproves the preservation of 'biomaterials'?

          Really? You think the science is 'settled'?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by barchan View Post
            And that disproves the preservation of 'biomaterials'?

            Really? You think the science is 'settled'?
            It disproves it wasn't iron.

            It may not be settled in your mind...but so far the YEC point is being made loud and clear in the evolutionary science industry. it's just one more nail in the coffin.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CrowCross View Post
              It disproves it wasn't iron.
              Not iron alone, anyway.

              These systems are more complex than a simple experiment and a lot more complex than the YEC coloring book version.

              It may not be settled in your mind...but so far the YEC point is being made loud and clear in the evolutionary science industry. it's just one more nail in the coffin.
              Yes, and that's what they have been saying for over a century now. Doesn't that tell you something?

              And, personally, I say that the science in never settled.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                You do know Mary Schweitzer's team tried to demonstrate how it was preserved with "iron"...and failed?
                Claims without links are worthless.
                With all the conflicting religious beliefs in the world, they can’t all be right. But they can all be wrong.
                Herb Silverman.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                  It disproves it wasn't iron.

                  It may not be settled in your mind...but so far the YEC point is being made loud and clear in the evolutionary science industry. it's just one more nail in the coffin.
                  The "preservation of biomaterials" in the condition in which Mary Schweitzer found them is demonstrated by radiometric dating. Your incredulity does not matter.
                  Regards, HRG.

                  "The universe doesn't care what happens to its inhabitants, but its inhabitants do" (Tyrrho).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aussiedave View Post
                    Claims without links are worthless.
                    Go to the 15:50ish mark and learn why iron isn't the answer.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HRG View Post

                      The "preservation of biomaterials" in the condition in which Mary Schweitzer found them is demonstrated by radiometric dating. Your incredulity does not matter.
                      radiometric dating does seem to have a problem......

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                        Go to the 15:50ish mark and learn why iron isn't the answer.

                        Seriously?
                        You don't understand it well enough to provide a brief synopsis?
                        Mark Armitage is a creationist.
                        Does he provide evidence or just talk?
                        Last edited by aussiedave; 02-10-19, 08:34 AM.
                        With all the conflicting religious beliefs in the world, they can’t all be right. But they can all be wrong.
                        Herb Silverman.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by aussiedave View Post
                          Seriously?
                          You don't understand it well enough to provide a brief synopsis?
                          Mark Armitage is a creationist.
                          Does he provide evidence or just talk?
                          Sounds like you didn't watch the portion of the video I suggested.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by aussiedave View Post
                            Claims without links are worthless.
                            Prove it. In fact you make the blunder that assumes the "links" you offer are valid sources.

                            God created man and didn't require links as a crutch.



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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CrowCross View Post

                              Sounds like you didn't watch the portion of the video I suggested.
                              Not interested unless peer reviewed, scientific verification can be provided.

                              With all the conflicting religious beliefs in the world, they can’t all be right. But they can all be wrong.
                              Herb Silverman.

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