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EvoStory chokes up on abiogenesis. Totally

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  • EvoStory chokes up on abiogenesis. Totally

    Abiogenesis is the fatal deal breaker the club can't overcome

    The evoKlubs just can't drag it off the black board and demonstrate the spontaneous generation of life.

    The cheaters will keep trying to Knock off God's handiwork and copy what he created. Try to do it in the laboratory, God CREATED without a lab, instruments and a catalog of solutions.

    "nobody in OOL mentions interactomes"



    Originally posted by rossum View Post

    Certainly. See these two papers:

    • Becker et al. (2016) /science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6287/833"]A high-yielding, strictly regioselective prebiotic purine nucleoside formation pathway[/URL].

    • Powner et al. (2009) //.nature.com/articles/nature08013"]RNA pyrimidine synthesis[/URL].

    Those give us uracil as well as ACGT so we have RNA (ACGU) as well as DNA (ACGT)..

    Did you not bother to check first whether or not science had already answered your question before you asked it? If you want to ask a 'gotcha' question then you need to check first that it really is a gotcha question. If it isn't then you are going to be the one with egg on your face.

    Now show us where your divinely created adenine, thymine, cytosine, guanine and uracil are.

    Scientific abiogenesis is well ahead of creationism.
    God created all in 6 days at the beginning. Reminder evoPushers have been caught countless times twisting Genesis 1.

    2 Peter 3:1516

    15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
    When we catch evos cornered, they deflect. God didn't consult textbooks,Science Magazine tabloid or Nature Magazine tabloids.

    Here are several dozen samples that clobber the deluded evoMeme.

    "There is not a scientist living today that understands Macroevolution"



    Dr Tour wipes the floor with the secular science groupies.

    Dr Tour makes nano cars which are small. 50,000 fit on the diameter of a hair.

    Evos don't know how to deal with numbers.


    All the evoNuts eventually learn the DNA requires a cell wall to protect it from air.
    But the complex instructions to make a cell wall have to be invented first.

    The cell wall is complex as Dr Touur describes. 40,000 types of lipids in a cell wall. @29:45 video ionophores regulate which molecules go in and which go out.


    Evo "scientists" try to make 4 building blocks. amino acids, carbs, lipids and nucleic acids.

    Royal Society of Darwin tribes sez Creationists are uneducated.

    What is the origin of life?

    Nobody has ever done this, build a single cell. They lie!

    Just a reminder, evoKult is named after The Darwin who didn't have the smarts to craft a single chapter on biochemistry.





  • #2
    LOL! Three days for the dinghy Commodore to replenish his stocks of science-free bile and rancor.

    Big Hat No Cattle.

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    • #3
      What made your deity?
      "He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Nouveau View Post
        Abiogenesis is the fatal deal breaker the club can't overcome

        The evoKlubs just can't drag it off the black board and demonstrate the spontaneous generation of life.

        The cheaters will keep trying to Knock off God's handiwork and copy what he created. Try to do it in the laboratory, God CREATED without a lab, instruments and a catalog of solutions.

        "nobody in OOL mentions interactomes"





        God created all in 6 days at the beginning. Reminder evoPushers have been caught countless times twisting Genesis 1.


        When we catch evos cornered, they deflect. God didn't consult textbooks,Science Magazine tabloid or Nature Magazine tabloids.

        Here are several dozen samples that clobber the deluded evoMeme.

        "There is not a scientist living today that understands Macroevolution"



        Dr Tour wipes the floor with the secular science groupies.

        Dr Tour makes nano cars which are small. 50,000 fit on the diameter of a hair.

        Evos don't know how to deal with numbers.


        All the evoNuts eventually learn the DNA requires a cell wall to protect it from air.
        But the complex instructions to make a cell wall have to be invented first.

        The cell wall is complex as Dr Touur describes. 40,000 types of lipids in a cell wall. @29:45 video ionophores regulate which molecules go in and which go out.


        Evo "scientists" try to make 4 building blocks. amino acids, carbs, lipids and nucleic acids.

        Royal Society of Darwin tribes sez Creationists are uneducated.

        What is the origin of life?

        Nobody has ever done this, build a single cell. They lie!

        Just a reminder, evoKult is named after The Darwin who didn't have the smarts to craft a single chapter on biochemistry.



        You are a science outsider. I feel sorry for people that have a poor education in science.

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        • #5
          Every day we discover the cells are more complex than ever. None of the locals took chemistry and can't bail each other out on the chemistry required for life to begin under a rock.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nouveau View Post
            None of the locals took chemistry and can't bail each other out on the chemistry required for life to begin under a rock.
            You didn't look at the two references you quoted in your OP, did you.

            Those explain exactly how scientists can bail each other out on the chemistry required for life to begin.

            Where are your divinely produced purines? Where are your Godly pyrimidines?

            Creationism has no chemistry at all. Abiogenesis has a great deal of chemistry. Abiogenesis is winning; creationism is losing.
            The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

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            • #7
              I betcha none of the evo unit has ever seen of had a lab notebook.

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              • #8
                While evos was vomiting up this thread, I was at work.
                https://drive.google.com/file/d/17un...ew?usp=sharing
                Busy being usefull, and productive.
                https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4G...ew?usp=sharing
                unlike the spewer of imaginary entities, who has created "evoStory", "evoKlubs", "evoPushers", and "evoKult".
                When evil is powerful, good men are silenced.

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                • #9
                  Evos files complaint

                  Originally posted by D Laurier View Post
                  While evos was vomiting up this thread, I was at work.

                  Busy being usefull, and productive.

                  unlike the spewer of imaginary entities, who has created "evoStory", "evoKlubs", "evoPushers", and "evoKult".
                  Fry cooks can be known to make biscuits.

                  The real deal uses yeast for leavening agent.
                  The yeast interactome, i.e. all protein–protein interactions among proteins of Saccharomyces cerevisiae, has been estimated to contain between 10,000 and 30,000 interactions.
                  You have never heard of interactomes. You dwell far from molecular chemistry.

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                  • #10
                    Scientifically illiterate fake scientist empty vessel continues to make the most noise.

                    Big Hat No Cattle.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rossum View Post

                      You didn't look at the two references you quoted in your OP, did you.

                      Those explain exactly how scientists can bail each other out on the chemistry required for life to begin.

                      Where are your divinely produced purines? Where are your Godly pyrimidines?

                      Creationism has no chemistry at all. Abiogenesis has a great deal of chemistry. Abiogenesis is winning; creationism is losing.
                      My understanding is that it takes far more than chemistry even in an advanced lab to generate a living reproducing cell.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by eyesmile View Post
                        My understanding is that it takes far more than chemistry even in an advanced lab to generate a living reproducing cell.
                        Your understanding may or may not be correct -- it is too early to tell. Purines are not a cell, but some of the molecules found in a cell. Pyrimidines similarly, they are not a cell, but are found in living cells. They are both some of the building blocks needed to assemble a living cell.

                        Science has those two building blocks. Creationism does not.
                        The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by eyesmile View Post

                          My understanding is that it takes far more than chemistry even in an advanced lab to generate a living reproducing cell.
                          Nobody know enough to know what all it takes. ..under a rock.

                          I like how he paints a picture, keep some turkey moist and wait a million years and it will become a live bird.

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                          • #14
                            Self pity:

                            Originally posted by TeabagSalad View Post

                            You are a science outsider. I feel sorry for people that have a poor education in science.
                            Your kult leader poor science education. His diploma mill didn't tell him about proteins, carbs and lipids. Building blocks. Of course we celebrated Independence Day where we detached from tribal islander illiterati.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

                              Your kult leader poor science education. His diploma mill didn't tell him about proteins, carbs and lipids. Building blocks. Of course we celebrated Independence Day where we detached from tribal islander illiterati.
                              Nouveau do you know any psychologists? Maybe you can ask one why a scientifically illiterate lonely old man spends so much time lying about his background and making a fool of himself on a science discussion board just to get attention.

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