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Part SEVEN: Christianity and Homosexuality

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  • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
    The lesson from this thread is that we have activists who will not accept evidence or other people having different views. That is indicative of both extremist fascist and extremist marxist ideologies.
    Matthew 7:12
    “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them,
    for this is the Law and the Prophets.


    I call it the "Law and the Prophets" ideology.

    - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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    • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
      Furthermore, convince us that someone using their anatomy in a way that cant function for the purpose intended is in any way ordered or functioning!
      My cousin is gay and her partner and her each had one boy and they are half brothers.
      They are extremely bright with wonderful personalities.
      - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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      • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
        Wrong. The Christian position is based on Biblical testimony and the evidence given in the OP.

        The position of some homosexuals is that homosexual acts are error. So what? Some people think the earth is flat. We look to the evidence unlike your argument which merely looks to whoever else is deceived and ignores the claims of those whose truth you find icky.

        The earth is only .01% out of being flat.
        It is much more flat than curved.
        About 8 inches of curve per mile.
        That's likely more flat than your kitchen table is.
        - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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        • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
          We look to the evidence unlike your argument which merely looks to whoever else is deceived and ignores the claims of those whose truth you find icky.
          Leaving homosexuality and finding another partner is icky.
          You can't fix gay relationships by asking them to marry your kids instead.
          Spreading disease is a bad stand to take. Multiple partners is the worse sin.

          - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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          • Originally posted by LeoTheLibrarian View Post
            Evidence never draws it's own conclusions or has a morality.
            People who are wrong arent right because you agree with them.
            The evidence speaks for itself and it excludes and condemns homosexual acts.

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            • Originally posted by LeoTheLibrarian View Post

              Matthew 7:12
              “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them,
              for this is the Law and the Prophets.


              I call it the "Law and the Prophets" ideology.
              The Law condemns homosexual acts. Lev 18 & 20. so what is your point?

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              • Originally posted by LeoTheLibrarian View Post
                The earth is only .01% out of being flat.
                Who says? The point was that people claim things. Is this the evidence you are now presenting or what someone claims? The Biblical evidence describes homosexuals acts as error and some people deny this evidence and claim otherwise.

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                • Originally posted by LeoTheLibrarian View Post
                  Leaving homosexuality and finding another partner is icky.
                  not all homosexuals agree with you so why do you believe some homosexuals and not others?

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                  • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post

                    The Law condemns homosexual acts. Lev 18 & 20. so what is your point?
                    The law has changed:
                    Romans 13:1-14

                    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

                    A law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) was issued in 342 AD by the Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans.
                    This law prohibited same-sex marriage in ancient Rome and ordered that those who were so married were to be executed.

                    "Same sex civil unions passed in Queensland"
                    - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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                    • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
                      not all homosexuals agree with you so why do you believe some homosexuals and not others?
                      God says fidelity is paramount. I see that gays obey laws.
                      Scientific, real world, observations.

                      Do you see gay people as law breakers, specifically?

                      I don't think you see gays as liars and such....real world.

                      - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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                      • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
                        Who says? The point was that people claim things. Is this the evidence you are now presenting or what someone claims? The Biblical evidence describes homosexuals acts as error and some people deny this evidence and claim otherwise.
                        If you travel a mile, then the earth curves 8 inches.
                        That is about 1/10th of 1% "not being flat."
                        So it is mostly flat.
                        And when you get to the end of that mile, it will still seem level to you.
                        Of the 100 people you pass, and handful will be gay.
                        Best that they find one partner and stick with them and not spread diseases.

                        Romans 13:1-14
                        Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
                        - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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                        • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
                          The Christian position is that homosexual acts are error.

                          Romans 13:1-14
                          Let every person be subject to the governing authorities..... those who resist will incur judgment.
                          - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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                          • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
                            People who are wrong arent right because you agree with them.
                            The evidence speaks for itself and it excludes and condemns homosexual acts.
                            Everyone thinks they are right and other are wrong. You have no basis for that point.
                            Last edited by LeoTheLibrarian; 09-21-18, 12:33 PM.
                            - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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                            • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
                              Wrong. The Christian position is based on Biblical testimony and the evidence given in the OP.

                              The position of some homosexuals is that homosexual acts are error. So what? Some people think the earth is flat. We look to the evidence unlike your argument which merely looks to whoever else is deceived and ignores the claims of those whose truth you find icky.

                              The evidence is that Christians are divided on the issue. All we need to prove this is one Christian saying one thing and another disagreeing. That has happened on this board today. Your claim to represent the whole of Christianity is wrong. Your claim that you have the only possible interpretation of the Bible is wrong. You are not the pope. You are not infallible on this, or any other issue. It is a fact to anyone who has the brains to look and the integrity to admit it, that Christianity is divided on this issue.
                              Your belief in Julius Caesar proves the existence of God.
                              CARM poster

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                              • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post
                                'Trans men' pixies, goblins and 'trans women' dont exist.
                                Researchers know even more about language an terms than you.
                                Real world, observable, sciencey stuff:

                                Sexual Health of Trans Men Who Are Gay, Bisexual, or Who Have Sex with Men: Results from Ontario, Canada


                                Intersections and evolution of ‘Butch-trans’ categories in Puerto Rico: Needs and barriers of an invisible population
                                Alíxida G. Ramos-Pibernus, Sheilla L. Rodríguez-Madera, Mark Padilla, Nelson Varas-Díaz, Ricardo Vargas Molina
                                Glob Public Health. Author manuscript; available in PMC 2017 Aug 1.
                                Published in final edited form as: Glob Public Health. 2016 Aug-Sep; 11(7-8): 966–980. Published online 2016 May 4. doi: 10.1080/17441692.2016.1180703

                                Health, disability and quality of life among trans people in Sweden–a web-based survey



                                - Treat others, just as you would wish to be treated yourself. This is the foundation of the Law and the Prophets. -

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