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  • #46
    Originally posted by WDG View Post

    That is funny. You sound like you cant justify any of your presuppositions.
    The only one here with presuppositions is you. Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. That's literally all it is. Your invented strawman of atheism because you can't comprehend something not modeled the same as your religion, is rather pathetic and ignorant.
    A forum liberal
    "When you claimed black people were raped, wasn't that racist? I'd say so."

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    • #47
      Originally posted by GondwanaLand View Post

      The only one here with presuppositions is you. Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. That's literally all it is. Your invented strawman of atheism because you can't comprehend something not modeled the same as your religion, is rather pathetic and ignorant.
      Nice talking with you

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      • #48
        Originally posted by WDG View Post

        That is funny. You sound like you cant justify any of your presuppositions.
        There is a reason almost all the Christians on this forum resort to troll tactics and obviously bogus sources. They wouldn't have to do that if they could simply state their position and defend it.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by backup View Post

          OK, I'll bite...

          Explain how believing in a God justifies science. What does that even mean?

          Science is basically just measuring things and having people check your results. I hardly see how that needs to be justified, and if it did, we can just see that it works. Can you think of a better way of finding out about stuff?

          Theology always strikes me as incredibly philosophically juvenile.

          I would be shocked if you could explain how believing in a God justifies science in simple English, without hiding behind nonsense language, poetry, or platitudes.
          hmmm...crickets?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by backup View Post

            Your ignorance of science doesn’t make for a good argument.
            Why are you fighting against science education?

            I am published in several science fields. You none.


            Originally posted by backup View Post
            haw haw haw


            science is stooopid.

            Atheism is not trustworthy enough to dabble in science.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

              I am published in several science fields.
              Really? On what topics and in what journals?

              It's not that people don't believe you, it's....well yes, it is people don't believe you.

              Originally posted by Nouveau View Post
              Remember only liars will claim to be scientists
              Do you still claim to be a scientist?
              "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin

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              • #52
                Originally posted by backup View Post

                hmmm...crickets?
                If you remember your presuppositions we are slaves to chemical reactions in our minds, chemical reactions which we cant control. You can not have it both ways you want to believe that that is true and not true at the same time. You can not do science if you are not in control of the chemical reactions taking place in your mind ( which you know you are not in control of). Thus God is the precondition of intelligibility without which we can not do science or know anything. Iím not saying you dont know things, you do, but you cant justify how you know anything. I know it is not the answer you are looking for, your presuppositions wont allow it. It is never the less true.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by WDG View Post
                  If you remember your presuppositions we are slaves to chemical reactions in our minds, chemical reactions which we cant control.
                  Your straw men don't represent his presuppositions.

                  And really, you need to be aware that Christian apologists use "presupposition" way too liberally to be accurately be labeling the things they hope to label with it. A conclusion isn't a presupposition, for example. Neither is a belief, nor an assumption. A presupposition is just a tiny step below an axiom, and people in general have very few of them.

                  Christian apologists like to think "God exists, and He is accurately described by the bible" is a presupposition, but the reality is that it's nothing but a tenet of religious faith. It's not something beyond question - which is what presuppositions are.

                  Originally posted by WDG View Post
                  You can not do science if you are not in control of the chemical reactions taking place in your mind ( which you know you are not in control of).
                  He IS in control of them, to an adequate extent. He can choose to think about a subject if he chooses to; so can you. This very fact destroys your straw man of atheists being strict deterministic chemists.

                  Of course, people have thought about things seemingly at random, so neither is the notion that we control all chemical reactions in our brains an accurate description of how thinking works.

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                  You really should spend more time listening to atheists, rather than telling them what they think & believe.
                  Atheism > Oneness forum trolls

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Tim H View Post

                    Really? On what topics and in what journals?

                    It's not that people don't believe you, it's....well yes, it is people don't believe you.



                    Do you still claim to be a scientist?
                    You are not a scientist.

                    Can you explain atheist MORALITY?

                    https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM


                    Atheist role models

                    4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
                    5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
                    6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
                    7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime

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                    • #55
                      Whimpering about strawmen and not explaining atheism in this world.
                      Originally posted by America View Post
                      Your straw men don't represent his presuppositions.

                      ;[blah, blah, blah]
                      Of course, people have thought about things seemingly at random, so neither is the notion that we control all chemical reactions in our brains an accurate description of how thinking works.

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                      You really should spend more time listening to atheists, rather than telling them what they think & believe.
                      Ya we observe atheist behavior and ignore their hype.

                      You will not see atheists point fingers at their leaders.

                      Own it.

                      Can you explain atheist MORALITY?

                      https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM


                      Atheist role models

                      4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
                      5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
                      6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
                      7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
                      Moral people leave atheism.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

                        I am published in several science fields.

                        .
                        LOL! Once again one of Nouveau's many grandiose brags turns out to be just a fantasy. That sure happens a lot, donnit?
                        "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

                          Can you explain atheist MORALITY?
                          Among a dozen other careers you've also claimed to be a psychologist.

                          Originally posted by Nouveau View Post
                          As a Professional Psychologist
                          Can a Professional Psychologist explain what motivates some people to compulsively lie about their academic background, and professional careers, and accomplishments?

                          "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin

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                          • #58
                            Red Herrings

                            Name the compulsive atheist liar that lies about my education.



                            Originally posted by Tim H View Post

                            Among a dozen other careers you've also claimed to be a psychologist.



                            Can a Professional Psychologist explain what motivates some people to compulsively lie about their academic background, and professional careers, and accomplishments?
                            So why do atheist crusades kill so many millions?

                            Ya we observe atheist behavior and ignore their hype.

                            You will not see atheists point fingers at their leaders.

                            Own it.

                            Can you explain atheist MORALITY?

                            https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM


                            Atheist role models

                            4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
                            5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
                            6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
                            7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
                            Moral people leave atheism.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by backup View Post

                              Silly

                              The fact is ~99% of species that ever existed are extinct. You can chose not to believe it, but that is just willful ignorance. What that has to do with the ethics of genocide is beyond me.
                              You have not provided an objective legal basis for your judgements which take effect backwards for one.

                              I know enough about the Bible to know it doesn’t mention extinction, unless, you want to include the myths about Noah’s flood.
                              The flood of Noah is in the Bible. Not only do you not know about the Bible you don't even know how to use google. Why did God command the extermination / genocide of the Canaanites, women and children included?

                              Seriously, what is wrong with you people?
                              I was just attempting to gauge your education level. Really you should worry about yourself and be glad you can hide behind your puter.

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                              • #60
                                Still no answers, just inconsistencies and a total ignoring of the Atheistic presuppositions. It must be great to just mix and match what ever suits your fancy to try and win an argument. Inconsistent, arbitrary and capricious.

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