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    marketwatch.com
    People who are religious may live an average of four years longer

    Kari Paul
    5-6 minutes


    Want to live longer? Consider joining a church.

    People who are religious live an average of four years longer than those who have no ties to religion, a study published Wednesday in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science. The researchers analyzed the obituaries of more than 1,000 people around the country, and adjusted for other factors that can affect lifespan, including the gender and marital status of the deceased.

    “Religious affiliation had nearly as strong an effect on longevity as gender does, which is a matter of years of life,” said Laura Wallace, lead author of the study and a doctoral student in psychology at The Ohio State University.

    This isn’t the first study that has tied religious belief to living longer. People who go to church at least once a week are at a 33% lower risk for death, a 2016 study of more than 75,000 people found.

    Researchers believe the health benefits of religion have to do with its ties to volunteering and being part of a community. Strong social ties can boost survival rates by 50%, a survey of more than 100 years of research released in 2010 found.

    But that isn’t the only reason for the boost in longevity, according to Wallace. “We found that volunteerism and involvement in social organizations only accounted for a little less than one year of the longevity boost that religious affiliation provided,” she said. “There’s still a lot of the benefit of religious affiliation that this can’t explain.”

    Those benefits could come from meditation and other stress-reducing practices, including prayer, the researchers said. Some preliminary studies have shown that meditation leads to fewer deaths from heart disease and cancer, though their sample sizes were relatively small.

    People who abandon their religious practice put themselves at risk for an earlier death, said Howard Friedman, a health psychologist and professor at the University of California, Riverside. He conducted similar research, reported in his book on “The Longevity Project,” including a study of 1,528 men and women followed from their childhood until their deaths.

    ”It is partly the good health habits often fostered by religious practice, but especially the social engagement that is so much a part of religious community, that are the likely explanations for the health of many religious folks,” he said.


    Peer pressure to live a healthier life may also help. Other factors related to religion that could boost longevity include abstaining from unhealthy habits like drinking and drugs, according to the researchers. Not drinking or smoking are two of five healthy habits pinpointed by a study released in June that can make people live 10 years longer.

    The other three healthy habits are eating a healthy diet, exercising 30 minutes a day, and maintaining a body mass index between 18.5 and 24.9. Men and women who make these lifestyle changes are 82% less likely to die from cardiovascular disease and 65% less likely to die from cancer, the study found.

    Taking a daily constitutional also helps. Walking at an average pace was linked to a 20% reduction in the risk of mortality compared with walking at a slow pace, while walking at a brisk or fast pace was associated with a risk reduction of 24%, according to a recent study by scientists at five universities.




    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pe...teid=rss&rss=1


    Test all things; hold fast that which is good. --1 Thessalonians 5:21

  • #2
    Originally posted by Thistle View Post
    marketwatch.com
    People who are religious may live an average of four years longer

    Kari Paul
    5-6 minutes

    Want to live longer? Consider joining a church.

    People who are religious live an average of four years longer than those who have no ties to religion, a study published Wednesday in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science. The researchers analyzed the obituaries of more than 1,000 people around the country, and adjusted for other factors that can affect lifespan, including the gender and marital status of the deceased.

    “Religious affiliation had nearly as strong an effect on longevity as gender does, which is a matter of years of life,” said Laura Wallace, lead author of the study and a doctoral student in psychology at The Ohio State University.

    This isn’t the first study that has tied religious belief to living longer. People who go to church at least once a week are at a 33% lower risk for death, a 2016 study of more than 75,000 people found.

    Researchers believe the health benefits of religion have to do with its ties to volunteering and being part of a community. Strong social ties can boost survival rates by 50%, a survey of more than 100 years of research released in 2010 found.

    But that isn’t the only reason for the boost in longevity, according to Wallace. “We found that volunteerism and involvement in social organizations only accounted for a little less than one year of the longevity boost that religious affiliation provided,” she said. “There’s still a lot of the benefit of religious affiliation that this can’t explain.”

    Those benefits could come from meditation and other stress-reducing practices, including prayer, the researchers said. Some preliminary studies have shown that meditation leads to fewer deaths from heart disease and cancer, though their sample sizes were relatively small.

    People who abandon their religious practice put themselves at risk for an earlier death, said Howard Friedman, a health psychologist and professor at the University of California, Riverside. He conducted similar research, reported in his book on “The Longevity Project,” including a study of 1,528 men and women followed from their childhood until their deaths.

    ”It is partly the good health habits often fostered by religious practice, but especially the social engagement that is so much a part of religious community, that are the likely explanations for the health of many religious folks,” he said.


    Peer pressure to live a healthier life may also help. Other factors related to religion that could boost longevity include abstaining from unhealthy habits like drinking and drugs, according to the researchers. Not drinking or smoking are two of five healthy habits pinpointed by a study released in June that can make people live 10 years longer.

    The other three healthy habits are eating a healthy diet, exercising 30 minutes a day, and maintaining a body mass index between 18.5 and 24.9. Men and women who make these lifestyle changes are 82% less likely to die from cardiovascular disease and 65% less likely to die from cancer, the study found.

    Taking a daily constitutional also helps. Walking at an average pace was linked to a 20% reduction in the risk of mortality compared with walking at a slow pace, while walking at a brisk or fast pace was associated with a risk reduction of 24%, according to a recent study by scientists at five universities.




    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pe...teid=rss&rss=1
    Why do you want to live longer? Isn't your main aim in life to kick the bucket as early as possible to enjoy eternal bliss?
    ... always look on the bright side of life - Idle Cleese

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    • #3
      Originally posted by juglans1 View Post
      Why do you want to live longer? Isn't your main aim in life to kick the bucket as early as possible to enjoy eternal bliss?
      Wow, that is a great question. Christianity is full of paradoxes; apparent contradiction that vanish under closer examination. Part of the paradox here is that there are multiple answers to this question. But for the moment I'll just give you this example. It was articulate by the Apostle Paul.
      "For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better;"
      - Philippians 1:21-23 NASB

      One of the principles, is that God's temporal rewards prominently includes opportunities to serve Christ. Any single person is greater than the greatest empire or culture in all of history, because empires and cultures are of limited life, and will ultimately be forgotten. But one more name written in the Lamb's Book of life will continue forever. So if we serve Christ, and he uses us to change one more mind for him, it would be hard to imagine something greater than that, except God bringing all of history to victorious conclusion in accordance with his plan.



      Test all things; hold fast that which is good. --1 Thessalonians 5:21

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Thistle View Post
        marketwatch.com
        People who are religious may live an average of four years longer

        Kari Paul
        5-6 minutes
        Want to live longer? Consider joining a church.

        People who are religious live an average of four years longer than those who have no ties to religion, a study published Wednesday in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science. The researchers analyzed the obituaries of more than 1,000 people around the country, and adjusted for other factors that can affect lifespan, including the gender and marital status of the deceased.

        “Religious affiliation had nearly as strong an effect on longevity as gender does, which is a matter of years of life,” said Laura Wallace, lead author of the study and a doctoral student in psychology at The Ohio State University.

        This isn’t the first study that has tied religious belief to living longer. People who go to church at least once a week are at a 33% lower risk for death, a 2016 study of more than 75,000 people found.

        Researchers believe the health benefits of religion have to do with its ties to volunteering and being part of a community. Strong social ties can boost survival rates by 50%, a survey of more than 100 years of research released in 2010 found.

        But that isn’t the only reason for the boost in longevity, according to Wallace. “We found that volunteerism and involvement in social organizations only accounted for a little less than one year of the longevity boost that religious affiliation provided,” she said. “There’s still a lot of the benefit of religious affiliation that this can’t explain.”

        Those benefits could come from meditation and other stress-reducing practices, including prayer, the researchers said. Some preliminary studies have shown that meditation leads to fewer deaths from heart disease and cancer, though their sample sizes were relatively small.

        People who abandon their religious practice put themselves at risk for an earlier death, said Howard Friedman, a health psychologist and professor at the University of California, Riverside. He conducted similar research, reported in his book on “The Longevity Project,” including a study of 1,528 men and women followed from their childhood until their deaths.

        ”It is partly the good health habits often fostered by religious practice, but especially the social engagement that is so much a part of religious community, that are the likely explanations for the health of many religious folks,” he said.


        Peer pressure to live a healthier life may also help. Other factors related to religion that could boost longevity include abstaining from unhealthy habits like drinking and drugs, according to the researchers. Not drinking or smoking are two of five healthy habits pinpointed by a study released in June that can make people live 10 years longer.

        The other three healthy habits are eating a healthy diet, exercising 30 minutes a day, and maintaining a body mass index between 18.5 and 24.9. Men and women who make these lifestyle changes are 82% less likely to die from cardiovascular disease and 65% less likely to die from cancer, the study found.

        Taking a daily constitutional also helps. Walking at an average pace was linked to a 20% reduction in the risk of mortality compared with walking at a slow pace, while walking at a brisk or fast pace was associated with a risk reduction of 24%, according to a recent study by scientists at five universities.




        https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pe...teid=rss&rss=1

        A slightly disingenuous thread title.

        Is a study of 75,000 individuals accurately representative of the Christian religion? It boasts millions of adherents.

        I suspect genetics also play an important part as well as the individual's social and financial situation. Nor are exercise and diet restricted to those of faith. Neither of course, is longevity.
        Trump's delusional claim:

        "The wall is getting longer and taller and stronger each and every day,”


        Fact check: None of the wall that he requested has been built.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post


          A slightly disingenuous thread title.

          Is a study of 75,000 individuals accurately representative of the Christian religion? It boasts millions of adherents.

          I suspect genetics also play an important part as well as the individual's social and financial situation. Nor are exercise and diet restricted to those of faith. Neither of course, is longevity.
          Bill Clinton's Surgeon General said the homosexual life expectancy in America was 43 years.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post


            A slightly disingenuous thread title.
            It's my answer to the article. But the floor is yours. What say you?

            Is a study of 75,000 individuals accurately representative of the Christian religion? It boasts millions of adherents.
            I'm not sure, but that is a pretty good number for most studies, isn't it?

            I suspect genetics also play an important part as well as the individual's social and financial situation. Nor are exercise and diet restricted to those of faith. Neither of course, is longevity.
            There does seem to be an anecdotal connection between longevity and piety in the biblical narrative.

            "So Jacob said to Pharaoh, "The years of my sojourning are one hundred and thirty; few and unpleasant have been the years of my life, nor have they attained the years that my fathers lived during the days of their sojourning.""
            - Genesis 47:9 NASB


            Test all things; hold fast that which is good. --1 Thessalonians 5:21

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post


              A slightly disingenuous thread title.

              Is a study of 75,000 individuals accurately representative of the Christian religion? It boasts millions of adherents.

              I suspect genetics also play an important part as well as the individual's social and financial situation. Nor are exercise and diet restricted to those of faith. Neither of course, is longevity.
              Divine Providence, love.

              If he had meant to cast you away he would have done so long ago. If he wanted reasons for rejecting you he had reasons from all eternity, for he knew what you would be. No sin in you has been a surprise to him. C.H. Spurgeon

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Howie View Post
                Divine Providence, love.
                "A thousand kisses" sweetie.
                Trump's delusional claim:

                "The wall is getting longer and taller and stronger each and every day,”


                Fact check: None of the wall that he requested has been built.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thistle View Post

                  It's my answer to the article. But the floor is yours. What say you?
                  The research looked at the religious, not necessarily Christians.

                  Originally posted by Thistle View Post

                  I'm not sure, but that is a pretty good number for most studies, isn't it?
                  That depends on the specific criteria of the research. For Christianity in a country like the USA where a high percentage of individuals claim to have Christian affiliations, it's hardly significant. The congregations of a dozen or so mega churches would approach that figure.





                  .
                  Trump's delusional claim:

                  "The wall is getting longer and taller and stronger each and every day,”


                  Fact check: None of the wall that he requested has been built.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Thistle View Post

                    There does seem to be an anecdotal connection between longevity and piety in the biblical narrative.
                    And particularly if you can still give birth to triplets at 500 years old (Gen 5:32). But what on Earth were Adam and his genetically identical partner also named Adam doing wrong in the 130 years before they first became pregnant, or were they just too pious(Gen 5:1-3)? But either way, longevity didn't help Noah's grandfather from being drowned for being naughty (Gen 5:27) nor most of his family, nor did it help Noah since none of them went to heaven (John 3:13), presumably because they weren't Christians.
                    Or so the story goes.
                    Last edited by juglans1; 06-15-18, 03:24 PM.
                    ... always look on the bright side of life - Idle Cleese

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                      The research looked at the religious, not necessarily Christians.
                      Christianity doesn't say all other religions are wrong about everything. Every step closer to the truth is better from a temporal perspective. And the article is written from a temporal perspective.

                      That depends on the specific criteria of the research. For Christianity in a country like the USA where a high percentage of individuals claim to have Christian affiliations, it's hardly significant. The congregations of a dozen or so mega churches would approach that figure.
                      Well, now that you mention it, I can practically throw a rock from my office and hit a church that runs about 40 thousand every Sunday between all their services. I've visited there, but when the church band is better than the Tonight Show band, I just feel a bit like I'm being entertained.






                      Test all things; hold fast that which is good. --1 Thessalonians 5:21

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by juglans1 View Post
                        And particularly if you can still give birth to triplets at 500 years old (Gen 5:32).
                        Well, that does seem to be a bit out on the tail of the modern age distribution, doesn't it.

                        But what on Earth were Adam and his genetically identical partner also named Adam doing wrong in the 130 years before they first became pregnant,
                        Probably scoping out real-estate. You have to remember, in those days it was all available.

                        or were they just too pious(Gen 5:1-3)?
                        I think I'm missing your point. The only positive commands were to inhabit the earth and be fruitful and multiply. So from a compliance stand point is took them a while to get with the program. Had they focused more on the positive agenda, perhaps they wouldn't have had the run in with the wrong fruit.

                        But either way, longevity didn't help Noah's grandfather from being drowned for being naughty (Gen 5:27) nor most of his family, nor did it help Noah since none of them went to heaven (John 3:13), presumably because they weren't Christians.
                        We are told that disembodied spirits will go to a place called Abraham's bosom [Luke 16:22] or Hadés, I suppose to await the last day. So it's quite probable no saints will be in heaven until the final disposition of all things.

                        Or so the story goes.
                        I expect that until the New Jerusalem descends from the New Heaven to the New Earth no saints will be in "heaven."



                        Test all things; hold fast that which is good. --1 Thessalonians 5:21

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Thistle View Post

                          Christianity doesn't say all other religions are wrong about everything.
                          It used to.

                          Originally posted by Thistle View Post
                          Every step closer to the truth is better from a temporal perspective. And the article is written from a temporal perspective.
                          The study raises an interesting possibility.

                          Certainly being socially involved in something, a hobby, a like-minded interest group, or simply being active within the community in which an individual lives may all offer positive benefits. We call it Gemeinschaft.
                          Trump's delusional claim:

                          "The wall is getting longer and taller and stronger each and every day,”


                          Fact check: None of the wall that he requested has been built.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                            It used to.
                            Christianity never disputed the claim of Islam that there is only one God.

                            The study raises an interesting possibility.

                            Certainly being socially involved in something, a hobby, a like-minded interest group, or simply being active within the community in which an individual lives may all offer positive benefits. We call it Gemeinschaft.
                            Including the possibility that gemeinschaft has stumbled across something more real than a social theory.


                            Test all things; hold fast that which is good. --1 Thessalonians 5:21

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Thistle View Post

                              Christianity never disputed the claim of Islam that there is only one God.
                              Go back a couple of centuries for examples of Christian "toleration".



                              Trump's delusional claim:

                              "The wall is getting longer and taller and stronger each and every day,”


                              Fact check: None of the wall that he requested has been built.

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