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    From the article:

    "Don't get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he "enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history" (actually they are the eighth largest) and that "our economy is the strongest it's ever been in the history of our country" (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it's a New York thing -- everything is the biggest and the best."

    But don't stop there. Read the entire article before you laugh it off. Promises count, and Trump has kept his better than most.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/marc...modern-history
    "Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.".....I Peter 2:17

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    Originally posted by awsmmix View Post
    From the article:

    "Don't get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he "enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history" (actually they are the eighth largest) and that "our economy is the strongest it's ever been in the history of our country" (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it's a New York thing -- everything is the biggest and the best."

    But don't stop there. Read the entire article before you laugh it off. Promises count, and Trump has kept his better than most.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/marc...modern-history
    That's all we should really care about (above bolded). No whining about his crowd sizes, height.
    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” - Socrates

    "The concept of a "Personal God," interfering with natural events,...." No criticism of this distorted idea of God can be sharp enough". - Tillich

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    • #3
      Apparently, presidential honesty is predicated upon the president's party holding a congressional super-majority.

      If so, then if the blue wave materializes next month, the so-called president will suddenly become dishonest.

      No, keeping campaign promises isn't about honesty, and the article conveniently ignores promises the oaf-in-chief made and then walked away from. There's no doubt Drumpf has kept some promises, just as there's no doubt he's not kept others. Just like every politician in the history of politics.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.7cd63e1129fa
      Last edited by America; 10-12-18, 10:54 AM.
      You can pluck a chicken one feather at a time, and no one will notice.

      ~ Benito Mussolini

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      • #4
        Originally posted by America View Post
        Apparently, presidential honesty is predicated upon the president's party holding a congressional super-majority.

        .
        Trump is the most lied about President in history. Why do atheeist/BaiHais lie? Jealousy? Insecurity? The Trump derangement syndrome drones are generally bullies.

        More winning. Pastor freed in Turkey. People raised under the Quran are mean.

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        • #5
          Trump’s List: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping
          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...romise-keeping


          11 major brownie messiah legacy items repealed. The left mob is terrified

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          • #6
            Originally posted by America View Post
            Apparently, presidential honesty is predicated upon the president's party holding a congressional super-majority.

            If so, then if the blue wave materializes next month, the so-called president will suddenly become dishonest.

            No, keeping campaign promises isn't about honesty, and the article conveniently ignores promises the oaf-in-chief made and then walked away from. There's no doubt Drumpf has kept some promises, just as there's no doubt he's not kept others. Just like every politician in the history of politics.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.7cd63e1129fa
            wwms?
            "Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.".....I Peter 2:17

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            • #7
              Originally posted by america View Post
              apparently, presidential honesty is predicated upon the president's party holding a congressional super-majority.

              If so, then if the blue wave materializes next month, the so-called president will suddenly become dishonest.

              No, keeping campaign promises isn't about honesty, and the article conveniently ignores promises the oaf-in-chief made and then walked away from. There's no doubt drumpf has kept some promises, just as there's no doubt he's not kept others. Just like every politician in the history of politics.

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.7cd63e1129fa
              wapo!???? Lol
              “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” - Socrates

              "The concept of a "Personal God," interfering with natural events,...." No criticism of this distorted idea of God can be sharp enough". - Tillich

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              • #8
                Originally posted by awsmmix View Post
                From the article:

                "Don't get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he "enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history" (actually they are the eighth largest) and that "our economy is the strongest it's ever been in the history of our country" (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it's a New York thing -- everything is the biggest and the best."

                But don't stop there. Read the entire article before you laugh it off. Promises count, and Trump has kept his better than most.

                https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/marc...modern-history
                Well, he sure did get that wall up in record time and Mexico is stuck with the bill.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by awsmmix View Post
                  From the article:

                  "Don't get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he "enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history" (actually they are the eighth largest) and that "our economy is the strongest it's ever been in the history of our country" (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it's a New York thing -- everything is the biggest and the best."

                  But don't stop there. Read the entire article before you laugh it off. Promises count, and Trump has kept his better than most.

                  https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/marc...modern-history
                  Trump lies so much, that in his USAToday oped they added cyberlinks to his claims to click on and find out the truth.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by America View Post
                    Apparently, presidential honesty is predicated upon the president's party holding a congressional super-majority.

                    If so, then if the blue wave materializes next month, the so-called president will suddenly become dishonest.

                    No, keeping campaign promises isn't about honesty, and the article conveniently ignores promises the oaf-in-chief made and then walked away from. There's no doubt Drumpf has kept some promises, just as there's no doubt he's not kept others. Just like every politician in the history of politics.

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.7cd63e1129fa
                    Obama has both houses his first two years.

                    so the comparison seems fair.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by awsmmix View Post
                      Originally posted by America View Post
                      Apparently, presidential honesty is predicated upon the president's party holding a congressional super-majority.

                      If so, then if the blue wave materializes next month, the so-called president will suddenly become dishonest.

                      No, keeping campaign promises isn't about honesty, and the article conveniently ignores promises the oaf-in-chief made and then walked away from. There's no doubt Drumpf has kept some promises, just as there's no doubt he's not kept others. Just like every politician in the history of politics.

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.7cd63e1129fa
                      wwms?
                      Mom would say that fulfilling some campaign promises and not others doesn't represent honesty.
                      You can pluck a chicken one feather at a time, and no one will notice.

                      ~ Benito Mussolini

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Simpletruther View Post

                        Obama has both houses his first two years.

                        so the comparison seems fair.
                        Then he was just as honest as Drumpf is
                        You can pluck a chicken one feather at a time, and no one will notice.

                        ~ Benito Mussolini

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by America View Post
                          Then he was just as honest as Drumpf is
                          Maybe I would have to see his list, but I seem to recall being disappointed in him, as the one thing I could agree on with him was leaving wars. And he drug his feet badly from what he claimed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

                            Why do atheeist/BaiHais lie?
                            Please tell us. Let us see into what is behind your masquerading as a follower of the mythical man/god that couldn't have been named jesus.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by awsmmix View Post
                              From the article:

                              "Don't get me wrong, Trump lies all the time. He said that he "enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history" (actually they are the eighth largest) and that "our economy is the strongest it's ever been in the history of our country" (which may one day be true, but not yet). In part, it's a New York thing -- everything is the biggest and the best."

                              But don't stop there. Read the entire article before you laugh it off. Promises count, and Trump has kept his better than most.

                              https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/marc...modern-history
                              Trump is directionally honest, but speaks with hyperbole, which may be a NY thing. I think this allows them to claim several are broken when he is making progress on the issue, though not always to the stated goal.

                              I also question their tally, observing they are showing bias in their tracker.
                              • I notice that all tax cut metrics only show up as Promises Broken when many would feel he made real progress in many aspects. Should be some compromises in there somewhere, not all showing as Broken.
                              • I notice they only tracked 40 promises for Obama over 8 years, seems like they must have excluded many things he said. They are tracking 60 for Trump.
                              • He banned Exec branch employees from jumping to lobby groups, but not Congressional staff. This should be a partial victory since he did what he could with Executive Order, but they rate it as a promise broken instead of a Compromise.
                              Last edited by Hal; 10-12-18, 02:20 PM.

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