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  • Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

    Yahweh is watching you.
    Oneness worship false gods; gods of their own making. Not Yahweh.

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    • Originally posted by joyous song View Post

      Did I call myself Christian? And where did I define it?
      Okay, you aren't a Christian then. That still doesn't change the fact that the OT is part of the Christian religion.
      "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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      • Originally posted by Treeplanter View Post

        That's not an answer to my question...
        Yes, it is.

        I asserted that I am in favor of eradicating Christianity, but only by means of reasoning with words

        You told me this is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual, in fact, you criticized me for these very reasons!

        Now, in this thread, you seem to be criticizing the physical eradication of Christianity through the murder of Christians

        What gives?
        I thought you respected a physical eradication, admiring the decided lack of wimpiness, fecklessness, and ineffectuality?
        Go ahead with your physical eradication plan tough guy, see how far you get.

        We already can see your success at your "bloviation" plan, hardly worth noting. I don't think you can even bloviate Christianity out of your own family, fella.
        “An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no God.”
        Carl Sagan

        God is love.

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        • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post

          Yes, it is.



          Go ahead with your physical eradication plan tough guy, see how far you get.

          We already can see your success at your "bloviation" plan, hardly worth noting. I don't think you can even bloviate Christianity out of your own family, fella.
          I have no physical eradication plan
          I am vehemently opposed to physical eradication plans
          Have you not been following along?

          I desire the eradication of a specific belief, but only by reasoning through words with those who hold this belief

          Of course, this is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual - according to you!

          So what gives with YOUR opposition to eradication through physical means?

          After all, physical eradication is anything but wimpy and feckless and ineffectual

          What exactly would YOU do if you were desiring to eradicate what you believe to be a harmful belief held by others?
          You wouldn't bother to reason with them through words because that is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual, right?
          So what is left?
          Would you use physical force to disabuse them of their beliefs?

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          • Originally posted by bob1 View Post
            Okay, you aren't a Christian then. That still doesn't change the fact that the OT is part of the Christian religion.
            Your argument is based on telling people that Christianity isnt what the Biblical testimony describes. This is remarkable from someone who doesn't even believe the Biblical testimony; but typical of the imaginary progressive ideology of today.
            Regarding the violence in the OT, without going into detail, Christians follow Christ who has fulfilled the OT law and prophets. Christ has made the way to redeem all who choose to believe and have faith in Him to salvation and glory and by having faith to seek to manifest God's Kingdom purposes on earth, which is to love one another. Now this is stated in the NT but progressives (ie H_P) are unwilling to acknowledge it and use it against those who do acknowledge it.
            Therefore Hitler, though he may have claimed to be Christian, lived almost completely opposed to Christ and God's Kingdom. Mao and Stalin on the other hand, were atheists and were responsible for the death of millions more than Hitler.

            The strange thing about the progressive position is, that if one sees the OT/NT progression one sees death to life, whereas if one takes the Islamic abrogation it appears the other way round, yet progressives usually deny the Christian witness and deny the Islamic one as well.

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            • Originally posted by Treeplanter View Post

              I have no physical eradication plan
              I am vehemently opposed to physical eradication plans

              Have you not been following along?
              I desire the eradication of a specific belief, but only by reasoning through words with those who hold this belief

              Of course, this is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual - according to you!

              So what gives with YOUR opposition to eradication through physical means?

              After all, physical eradication is anything but wimpy and feckless and ineffectual

              What exactly would YOU do if you were desiring to eradicate what you believe to be a harmful belief held by others?
              You wouldn't bother to reason with them through words because that is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual, right?
              So what is left?
              Would you use physical force to disabuse them of their beliefs?
              Ya ok, I get that you do your forum arguing thing, going around telling everyone you think God immoral and a monster.

              Any other thing you got going with your eradication plan? Pot lucks? Meetings?
              “An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no God.”
              Carl Sagan

              God is love.

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              • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post

                Ya ok, I get that you do your forum arguing thing, going around telling everyone you think God immoral and a monster.

                Any other thing you got going with your eradication plan? Pot lucks? Meetings?
                And still, nothing from James!

                We have already established that my ONLY modus operandi is reasoning through words

                You think this is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual, but you also seem to be criticizing attempts at the physical eradication of harmful beliefs...

                So, I will ask again, what do you suggest?

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                • Originally posted by Treeplanter View Post

                  And still, nothing from James!

                  We have already established that my ONLY modus operandi is reasoning through words

                  You think this is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual, but you also seem to be criticizing attempts at the physical eradication of harmful beliefs...

                  So, I will ask again, what do you suggest?
                  I suggest you work on your "reasoning" skillz. I take it you haven't had any success, since you don't claim any. Except for maybe your poor children, who surely must tow daddies line. Poor kids.
                  “An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no God.”
                  Carl Sagan

                  God is love.

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                  • Originally posted by brightmorningstar View Post

                    Your argument is based on telling people that Christianity isnt what the Biblical testimony describes. This is remarkable from someone who doesn't even believe the Biblical testimony; but typical of the imaginary progressive ideology of today.
                    Regarding the violence in the OT, without going into detail, Christians follow Christ who has fulfilled the OT law and prophets. Christ has made the way to redeem all who choose to believe and have faith in Him to salvation and glory and by having faith to seek to manifest God's Kingdom purposes on earth, which is to love one another. Now this is stated in the NT but progressives (ie H_P) are unwilling to acknowledge it and use it against those who do acknowledge it.
                    Therefore Hitler, though he may have claimed to be Christian, lived almost completely opposed to Christ and God's Kingdom. Mao and Stalin on the other hand, were atheists and were responsible for the death of millions more than Hitler.

                    The strange thing about the progressive position is, that if one sees the OT/NT progression one sees death to life, whereas if one takes the Islamic abrogation it appears the other way round, yet progressives usually deny the Christian witness and deny the Islamic one as well.
                    What you offer is just Christian song and dance to cover up for the unpleasant and morally questionable parts of their bible. The fact remains that the OT is part of the Christian bible and Christians regularly cite or quote from it. It is a part of Christianity, plain and simple.
                    "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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                    • Originally posted by bob1 View Post
                      What you offer is just Christian song and dance to cover up for the unpleasant and morally questionable parts of their bible. The fact remains that the OT is part of the Christian bible and Christians regularly cite or quote from it. It is a part of Christianity, plain and simple.
                      We know atheist history very well. Stalin will be remembered.

                      You have never found any commands in scripture that are morally questionable. Atheists have no foundation of right and wrong. Weinsten is just another glob of cells according to the warped PP kult.

                      Sin. When misc unionbobs defend fornications that means they like sin.

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                      • Originally posted by bob1 View Post
                        What you offer is just Christian song and dance to cover up for the unpleasant and morally questionable parts of their bible. The fact remains that the OT is part of the Christian bible and Christians regularly cite or quote from it.
                        And it says right in that book that it's the covenant made with Israel.

                        And that "The time is coming" says the Lord, " when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt...."

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                        It is a part of Christianity, plain and simple.
                        Life is a waterfall
                        we drink from the river
                        then we turn around and put up our walls....(SOAD)

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                        • Originally posted by JamesTheLesser View Post

                          I suggest you work on your "reasoning" skillz. I take it you haven't had any success, since you don't claim any. Except for maybe your poor children, who surely must tow daddies line. Poor kids.
                          Whether I am successful in eradicating Christianity by reasoning through words or not is irrelevant!

                          Bottom line is that you have claimed that an attempt at eradication through reasoning with words is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual, but you have also suggested that an attempt at eradication through physical means leaves something to be desired

                          By what means shall we work towards the eradication of harmful ideas???

                          How many times must I ask you?

                          If words won't cut it and actions won't cut it - what will???

                          Could it be that you painted yourself into a corner from which there is no graceful escape???

                          Yep, I think so!!!

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                          • Originally posted by Nouveau View Post

                            We know atheist history very well. Stalin will be remembered.

                            You have never found any commands in scripture that are morally questionable. Atheists have no foundation of right and wrong. Weinsten is just another glob of cells according to the warped PP kult.

                            Sin. When misc unionbobs defend fornications that means they like sin.
                            Stalin is irrelevant to atheism.

                            Massacring people is pretty immoral... so is selling your daughters... as well as stoning unruly children.

                            Weinstein is irrelevant.

                            Nothing wrong with consenting adults having sex before marriage. Your bronze-age cult is outdated.
                            "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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                            • Originally posted by joyous song View Post

                              And it says right in that book that it's the covenant made with Israel.

                              And that "The time is coming" says the Lord, " when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt...."

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                              And yet it's still part of Christianity. Christians still cite from it and quote it. They still wave around various OT laws (while simultaneously ignoring other OT laws).
                              "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." - Thomas Paine - THE AGE OF REASON

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                              • Originally posted by Treeplanter View Post

                                Whether I am successful in eradicating Christianity by reasoning through words or not is irrelevant!

                                Bottom line is that you have claimed that an attempt at eradication through reasoning with words is wimpy and feckless and ineffectual, but you have also suggested that an attempt at eradication through physical means leaves something to be desired

                                By what means shall we work towards the eradication of harmful ideas???

                                How many times must I ask you?

                                If words won't cut it and actions won't cut it - what will???

                                Could it be that you painted yourself into a corner from which there is no graceful escape???

                                Yep, I think so!!!
                                Good heavens man, do you need direction for everything in your life?

                                I've already told you what you should do, pretending I didn't is odd.

                                By all means, walk around telling everyone you want to "eradicate" them. Just learn some hai karate or something, you may need it, be careful how you use it.

                                There is no advice I can give you for your harmful ideas. I'll just let you suffer for them. Who knows, maybe you will learn?
                                “An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no God.”
                                Carl Sagan

                                God is love.

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