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Why would Christians want LGBTQ people removed from an anti lynching bill?

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  • Why would Christians want LGBTQ people removed from an anti lynching bill?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...g-bill-n956831



    To be fair. They have no problem with the anti lynching bill its self. They simply want to make sure that LGBTQ people are excluded from its protections.


    Can anyone give me a civilized reason why this might be the case? I mean this isnt even biblical. After all, arent you supposed to stone gays to death anyways instead of lynching them?




    There have been thousands of Gods through out human history. But dont worry! YOUR god is the right one.

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    Originally posted by Nitso View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...g-bill-n956831



    To be fair. They have no problem with the anti lynching bill its self. They simply want to make sure that LGBTQ people are excluded from its protections.


    Can anyone give me a civilized reason why this might be the case? I mean this isnt even biblical. After all, arent you supposed to stone gays to death anyways instead of lynching them?



    So you think that all future laws need to explicitly state that LGBTQ are included otherwise it could be construed that the law doesnt apply to them? I have to be really careful not to get myself banned here
    "Now, what is the Sacrament of the Altar!
    Answer: It is the true body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, in and under the bread and wine which we Christians are commanded by the Word of Christ to eat and to drink."

    Martin Luther "The Large Cathechism"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ignatius View Post

      So you think that all future laws need to explicitly state that LGBTQ are included otherwise it could be construed that the law doesnt apply to them? I have to be really careful not to get myself banned here
      Of course not.

      But if a law just happened to include that wording, why bother to fight to get it removed? To what purpose? Why on earth would you come out and say "The bill is fine as long as you remove gays from the list of protected people" ?


      There have been thousands of Gods through out human history. But dont worry! YOUR god is the right one.

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      • #4
        I read a statement Liberty made about their reasoning;

        It's not like they want it to be OK for them to be lynched. They just don't want undeserving (willful sinners) to benefit from any special legal protections. They look at it as a slippery slope -- putting 'protections' for willful sinners in this bill will build case law for additional protections for other undeserving sorts of persons.

        These sinners shouldn't be protected from God's wrath (as being Christian entitles one to deliver). America was designed by the Founders to protect Christians from persecution and preserve their holy obligation to condemn sin.

        Denying LGBTQ protections under this bill is more like an opportunity for Liberty to virtue signal to like-minded people that they are hard at work defending real Christians and America itself. They need donations, you see, which this announcement will surely bring in.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nitso View Post
          https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...g-bill-n956831



          To be fair. They have no problem with the anti lynching bill its self. They simply want to make sure that LGBTQ people are excluded from its protections.


          Can anyone give me a civilized reason why this might be the case? I mean this isnt even biblical. After all, arent you supposed to stone gays to death anyways instead of lynching them?



          Well there's nothing in the actual definition of lynching that requires it to be hanging. It just happens that many lynchings of African americans were done with hanging.

          Lynching is a premeditated extrajudicial killing by a group. It is most often used to characterize informal public executions by a mob in order to punish an alleged transgressor, or to intimidate a group.
          So stoning would still be an option if they so chose.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ignatius View Post

            So you think that all future laws need to explicitly state that LGBTQ are included otherwise it could be construed that the law doesnt apply to them? I have to be really careful not to get myself banned here
            Not all future laws. Just laws defending people who, historically, have been lynched.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GondwanaLand View Post

              So stoning would still be an option if they so chose.
              Yes, but humanely.

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              • #8
                How can a Christian group see 'lgbt' people?? In Christ there is no male or female, slave or free or Sythian or Jew; certainly no identity based on a sexual preference that is contrary to God's creation. And yes lynching is a bias-motivated act of terror.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kastewart View Post

                  Not all future laws. Just laws defending people who, historically, have been lynched.
                  How many LGBTQ lynchings have there been?
                  "Now, what is the Sacrament of the Altar!
                  Answer: It is the true body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, in and under the bread and wine which we Christians are commanded by the Word of Christ to eat and to drink."

                  Martin Luther "The Large Cathechism"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nitso View Post

                    Of course not.

                    But if a law just happened to include that wording, why bother to fight to get it removed? To what purpose? Why on earth would you come out and say "The bill is fine as long as you remove gays from the list of protected people" ?

                    Because gays don't need special protection as laws should apply to everyone. Why not include people with red hair then? Or how about left handed people? This is just more hysterical leftist BS
                    "Now, what is the Sacrament of the Altar!
                    Answer: It is the true body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, in and under the bread and wine which we Christians are commanded by the Word of Christ to eat and to drink."

                    Martin Luther "The Large Cathechism"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nitso View Post
                      https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...g-bill-n956831



                      To be fair. They have no problem with the anti lynching bill its self. They simply want to make sure that LGBTQ people are excluded from its protections.


                      Can anyone give me a civilized reason why this might be the case? I mean this isnt even biblical. After all, arent you supposed to stone gays to death anyways instead of lynching them?
                      Who knew lynching was legal? Somehow I have the sneaking suspicion that lynching was already illegal.



                      Test all things; hold fast that which is good. --1 Thessalonians 5:21

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ignatius View Post

                        How many LGBTQ lynchings have there been?
                        Even one is too many. Ask Matthew Sheppard's parents. Or the relatives of the Pulse nightclub shooting victims.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kastewart View Post

                          Not all future laws. Just laws defending people who, historically, have been lynched.
                          How many have historically been lynched?
                          One cannot and must not try to erase the past merely because it does not fit the present. Golda Meir
                          Fundies say the darndest things - simplicio

                          Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.

                          Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                          as long as there is life, there is hope.

                          what unites us is stronger than what divides us...

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                          • #14
                            Right?!?
                            Originally posted by Thistle View Post

                            Who knew lynching was legal? Somehow I have the sneaking suspicion that lynching was already illegal.
                            One cannot and must not try to erase the past merely because it does not fit the present. Golda Meir
                            Fundies say the darndest things - simplicio

                            Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.

                            Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

                            as long as there is life, there is hope.

                            what unites us is stronger than what divides us...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tim H View Post

                              Even one is too many. Ask Matthew Sheppard's parents. Or the relatives of the Pulse nightclub shooting victims.
                              Again why do guys need special protection? The law is the law is the law. Leftist BS
                              "Now, what is the Sacrament of the Altar!
                              Answer: It is the true body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, in and under the bread and wine which we Christians are commanded by the Word of Christ to eat and to drink."

                              Martin Luther "The Large Cathechism"

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